Prot Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 I think it’s a great idea to take this opportunity to adjust their ‘alignment ‘ of rules. I really believe they should be a ‘wildcard’ of Imperium keywords. Right now I believe they are a little too inflexible, and awkward to fit into Imperium lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I've been pondering this, and it's hard to gauge what GW is planning (not that it usually isn't, GW being GW ). Something to get Assassins in lists easier as mentioned will make a big difference but after CA I'm somewhat leery of expectations. It'd be great for something new, but I'd settle for solid improvements for what we have (and would take that first). My Assassins don't see the table that much and I'd like that to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 thinking about its... if you could take a single Assasin for 0 CP instead of the -1 for an auxillary formation then that would be a step towards them seeing table time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 IMO you shouldn't have to use a single detachment just to field an assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 update lone operative rule to read something like this: This model can not be the warlord or given traits by any means. Also this model never takes up a force Org slot in a formation and can be added to any imperial formation without preventing the formation from receiving the relevant Order/ Regiment/ Chapter traits. An Imperial Faction army may never include more than one lone operative in total unless including an Execution Force formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I think taking no slot might be quite a nice way of ensuring that you still need to fulfil your normal requirements of your army first. Even if not, removing the active penalty for including an assassin would go a long way indeed. It seems a pretty obvious simple fix, but then so did some of the CA suggestions we had that never appeared... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I thought you could take up to 3 assassins with no CP penalty. Am I wrong on that? I thought it was an FAQ/Errata. I'll go take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 You can take a Vanguard without HQ that gives no CP. You still have to fill at least 3 elite slots, so need to take at least 3 Assassins. For a single one you only have the auxiliary support detachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Don’t really need three, two at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassa Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 I love assassins and currently have one of each. Hoping some good updates to the rules and/or strategems appear to actually make them useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Indeed, three is quite an investment that often you don't want. As mentioned a couple is usually enough so it's not a particularly helpful option :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Ok building on the Lone Operative rule I put above.... Execution Force - Vanguard formation - min requirements 1 of each temple, max of 2 per temple ... +1 CP .... gives Assassins strats High Priority Targeting - Auxiliary Formation - 2 Assassins of any temple combination ... -1 CP ... gives assassins strats so basically you can take one in any Imperial formation with no CP cost / benefits but no strats 2 with a CP cost 4+ as a normal formation but at least 4 temples (or only 3 if GW dont add any more) EDIT - depending on what March brings might be worth moving this conversation over to the house rules section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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