nusphigor Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Hello guys!Do you remember the old Gothic Ultramarines that came out on a white dwarf around 4th edition?Do you guys remember which issue was it?Also, one ultramarine army based on the battle for macragge with snow on their bases that had a darker than normal colour scheme but that was on another white dwarf issue around mid 5th edition?Basically I kinda want to see some tips on how to paint darker ultras but haven't been able to find those armies i mentioned.Could you please help me find this?Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Heresy Ultra's are darker than their 40k equivilents, try Warhammer TV's Heresy Ultramarine scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSilver Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I know that James Karch's Ultras were a darker than usual colour scheme. I can't remember if they were on snow bases though. If you google James Karch or SpikeyJames they should come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Any tips for painting 4th/5th edition Ultramarines will be based on the old range of Citadel colours, so they won't be as helpful. You might just take the current scheme and darken each paint one or two shades, with Kantor blue (or something similar if you're using another paint range) as the basecoat. If you're using the Citadel Paint App as your guide, use the navy blue or dark blue schemes vice blue (if you're painting by color) or the Crimson Fists Intercessor vice Ultramarines Intercessor (if you're painting by model). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Lunkhead Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I painted up a few squads in the darker shade myself some years ago ……. Unfortunately, my figures, White Dwarf issues, and paint notes are in storage. I do remember that I did not base with Cidadel paint, but actually used Ultramarine Blue as the base and shaded and highlighted from there. I was pleased with the results although I personally prefer the brighter blue associated with 2nd Ed Ultramarines. However the Gothic look is definitely striking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nusphigor Posted January 25, 2019 Author Share Posted January 25, 2019 Thank you guys. I got a kantor blue to try and paint one and see how it goes from there, but i kinda wanted to see more minis as inspiration. So far i found the gothic minis in the 4th ed space marine codex, but havent been able to find the others (or james karch's ultras). I'll dig some more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the scan below is from How to Paint Space Marines (2004): You can see color swatches of the old range of Citadel Colours that are referenced here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nusphigor Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thank you brother! I was looking for a darker version of these, actually. I've been looking at old ultras and i think the answer may lurk in using Kantor Blue, purple or black shade and edge highlight with ultramarine blue, but paying more atentio to the gold to make it more dark and beaten (maybe shading it with purple). I will paint a test mini when i get back home and share the results if you guys want to see them :) Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I paint my heresy guys darker by starting with kantor blue as the base with macragge blue as the highlight layer on the raised areas as opposed to macragge blue leading into altdorf blue and for shading the shadowed areas i use nuln oil as opposed to drakenhoff nightshade and edge highlight steps are altdorf mixed with calgar blue with pure calgar blue as on the highest points as opposed to pure calgar followed by calgar mixed with white with both styles being finished with thin glazes of guilliman blue and the 40k style being topped with a super thin glaze of waywatcher green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I think I know which ones you're talking about. I'll have a look through my white dwarfs and see if I can find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSilver Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Don't know if this helps, I'll see if i can find some more pics or I can get in touch with James and ask him. https://relicpainting.wordpress.com/tutorial-spikeyjames-ultramarines-recipe/ Edit - I found one his old threads on here which has much better pics: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/30818-ultramars-photo-album/page-9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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