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Mars, Stygies and Knight Army


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I've revised my list a few times now and I would like some feedback for my army. I love the lore behind 40k and I've read a lot of the books, but I've never got into the hobby yet. I would like to get a basic army down before I get any miniatures, so feedback would be greatly appreciated, thanks! 

Total: 124PL, 1993pts 

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [53 PL, 834pts] ++ 

+ No Force Org Slot + 

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Mars 

HQ + 

Belisarius Cawl [13 PL, 190pts] 

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 92pts]: Eradication Ray, Macrostubber, Relic: Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land 
. Warlord: Warlord Trait (Codex 4): Necromechanic 

+ Troops + 

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 65pts] 
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle 
. 2x Skitarii Ranger 
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus 

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex 
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle 
. 2x Skitarii Ranger 
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus 

Skitarii Rangers [4 PL, 72pts]: Omnispex 
. Ranger Alpha: Galvanic Rifle 
. 2x Skitarii Ranger 
. 2x Skitarii Ranger (Transuranic Arquebus): 2x Transuranic Arquebus 

+ Heavy Support + 

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 119pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber 
. Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber: Cognis Heavy Stubber, Neutron Laser 

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 112pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array 

Onager Dunecrawler [7 PL, 112pts]: Broad Spectrum Data-tether, Cognis Heavy Stubber, Icarus Array 

++ Total: [53 PL, 834pts] ++ 


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus) [46 PL, 662pts] ++ 

+ No Force Org Slot + 

Forge World Choice: Forge World: Stygies VIII 

HQ + 

Tech-Priest Dominus [7 PL, 92pts]: Eradication Ray, Macrostubber 

Tech-Priest Enginseer [3 PL, 30pts] 

+ Troops + 

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts] 
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard 
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle 
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine 

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts] 
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard 
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle 
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine 

Skitarii Vanguards [4 PL, 48pts] 
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard 
. 2x Skitarii Vanguard (Arc Rifle): 2x Arc Rifle 
. Vanguard Alpha: Radium Carbine 

+ Elites + 

Sicarian Infiltrators [12 PL, 108pts] 
Infiltrator Princeps 
. . Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad: Flechette Blaster, Taser Goad 
. 5x Sicarian Infiltrator (Flechette/Taser): 5x Flechette Blaster, 5x Taser Goad 

+ Fast Attack + 

Sydonian Dragoons [12 PL, 288pts] 
. Sydonian Dragoon: Phosphor Serpenta, Taser Lance 
. Sydonian Dragoon: Phosphor Serpenta, Taser Lance 
. Sydonian Dragoon: Phosphor Serpenta, Taser Lance 
. Sydonian Dragoon: Phosphor Serpenta, Taser Lance 

++ Total: [46 PL, 662pts] ++ 


++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [25 PL, 497pts] ++ 

+ No Force Org Slot + 

Household Choice: House <Custom>, Questor Imperialis 

+ Lord of War + 

Knight Crusader [25 PL, 497pts]: Heavy Stubber, Stormspear Rocket Pod, Thermal Cannon 
. Avenger Gatling Cannon w/ Heavy Flamer: Avenger Gatling Cannon, Heavy Flamer 

++ Total: [25 PL, 497pts] ++ 

Created with BattleScribe 

I would like to add the heirloom "Endless Fury", but I can't seem to make it a valid list on battlescribe, would like some help with that too. C+C would be greatly appreciated, thanks.



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Hello, and welcome!

Its depends on how competitive you are but the two forgeworlds you’ve chosen are known for the below...

Mars - Kastellan Robots with wrath of mars stratagem for mortal wounds galore

Stygies -2 to hit Dragoons

A couple of things with your mars detachment. Aside from not taking the best unit in the codex it’s ok so far but you if your taking infiltrators stick them in this detachment so you can take advantage of ‘wrath of mars’ stratagem. Without it they aren’t so great. (If your taking infiltrators it’s worth taking 10)

Your stygies detachment has vanguard troops in it with arc rifles, personally I’d avoid them unless you like the look of them.

You also are spending a lot of points on HQ characters. 2 Dominus and Cawl is overkill. Most people would take Cawl and then 3 enginseers. A happy compromise would be Cawl, TPD and 2 enginseers if you are set on the Dom being you warlord for the relic/Warlord trait.

Your knight issue looks like you haven’t specified the household. You’ve picked imperial but you didn’t pick a house.

You need to also (where it says no force org) click heirlooms of the household and then you can choose your endless fury relic. It’s cause unless your In a knight lance you don’t get relics and have to pay using a command point pregame to get access to them. (The codex explains this stuff if you want more info)

Just my 2p worth. Best of luck

Edited by Clingy, 28 January 2019 - 08:52 PM.

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Okay, thanks a lot. Why not the arc rifles on the vanguard? Additionally, do you think I should bring a unit with plasma calivers for the vanguard? How many models do you think would be good for the Kastelan Robots unit(s)? Thanks.



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Most people take 4-6 Kastellan robots. But they are 110 points each

You wouldn’t have enough points to do it all sadly.

Mars
Stygies
Knights

You can reliably do 2/3 but you end up trying to cram too many toys into the list.

If it were me I’d decide what models I like most from the range first. Then work out how competitive you want your list to be. Then how set are you on a knight. You want your army to be multi skilled. You’ve got a good shooting platform in the Crusader so going down the stygies melee route is a solid option.

Plasma vanguard can work but my experience has been hit and miss. Arc rifles whilst cheap never really seem worth it. I find our troops die far too easily and then it’s just wasted points. I often run two battalions of barebones rangers just to act as a screen. We are at a bit of a disadvantage as a faction in that other armies do it better

Guard for instance has cheaper, tougher more useful chaff that can get to objectives quicker with more of a melee bite.

I like saving my points for the good stuff in the Admech codex.

Final thing, if you magnatise the knight you can run him as a gallant which is quite nice in a mars list.
A mars artillery list is quite static so it’s a nice option to have a fast moving melee unit to move up the field and create pressure




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