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jawdrop.gif All of a sudden I want to stop my T'au and repaint my Dark Angels into Raven Guard! Full Primaris! 


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By the way, I saw the Obliterator's toothy plasma thing from the Rumour Engine was posted, but I don't think I saw this one. It's the Librarian's belt.

 

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jawdrop.gif All of a sudden I want to stop my T'au and repaint my Dark Angels into Raptors! Full Primaris! 

Fixed. They're aleady green. And stealthy. And shooty. whistling.gif


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I’m already imagining how I’m going to kitbash the librarian and sorcerer together. Definitely getting this box set. The primris so far are actually cool enough that I might want to use them for a kill team or some
kind of mixed imperial force. Also can I mace these cloaks into human skin...

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Do we know which Force Org slot these vanguard dudes are going to take up? I was thinking Elites but that slot is already the most overcrowded slot in the codex, but I can't think of any other slot they would fit in.


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Why do people think that 'Vanguard Primaris' will be a new sub faction? Primaris being 3-4 tiny sub-factions would be a weird design choice, it was bad enough when Ad Mech were split between Skitari and Cult Mechanicus.

 

Unless I've missed something and 'Vanguard' will be a specific keyword, rather than a faction in and of themselves.

 

Also, do we think this is how the breakdown of Primaris Chapters will go? X Companies of Vanguard, Y Companies of heavy dudes etc. Although that would beg the question of what happens to the '1st wave Primaris'? Dedicated 1st wave 'line companies' or will they be the basic dudes and each sub type company adds its specialists (something like 60 1st wave and 40 Vanguard in a Vanguard Company)? Speculation Away!!! tongue.png 


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I think heavy for the snipers. And the art shows there are going to be troop slot guys with the rievers armour too.

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A couple of the vanguard guys (the non-snipers) have tactical symbols, so troops for them. 



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Unless I've missed something and 'Vanguard' will be a specific keyword, rather than a faction in and of themselves.

 

It'll be this. Easiest way to get stratagems to work on them and only them etc

 

My guess is all the rules for this stuff will be in Vigilus 2/ the box set, with an eventual redux of the Marine/ Chaios codexes down the line.



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Why do people think that 'Vanguard Primaris' will be a new sub faction? Primaris being 3-4 tiny sub-factions would be a weird design choice, it was bad enough when Ad Mech were split between Skitari and Cult Mechanicus.

 

Unless I've missed something and 'Vanguard' will be a specific keyword, rather than a faction in and of themselves.

 

I probably shouldn't have used the word "faction", but I fully expect them to have a specific Vanguard keyword to allow stratagems, command abilities, Librarian powers etc to only interact with these units.

 

(Part of it is to do with the way the Primaris seem to be following the pattern of the way Stormcast Eternals were released; when they first came out they had their normal guys, then later on got a new "Chamber" of units specifically referred to as Stormcast Vanguard. They are part of the overall Stormcast faction and you can mix and match units freely between them, but are a little bit distinct in lore terms an even have their own separate Start Collecting box.)


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I wonder if the Primaris will get a 'big' unit in that boxset, Chaos are getting Spider tank + Oblits, needs to balance out xD


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I like that there is now a sniper unit in power armour. I always thought it was strange that they trained as a scout with access to sniper rifles and once their training is done the just dumped a bolter into their hands. Now marines that excelled at the roles generally attributed to scouts can be promoted into a similar role.


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I wonder if the Primaris will get a 'big' unit in that boxset, Chaos are getting Spider tank + Oblits, needs to balance out xD

 

Well, looking at Dark Imperium, there wasn't anything on the Primaris side to "balance" the Bloat Drone. But I definitely feel like there's something missing on the loyalist side, even accounting for the box containing some Mk7LookingVanguardTroopGuys and a Vanguard Captain.


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I wonder if the Primaris will get a 'big' unit in that boxset, Chaos are getting Spider tank + Oblits, needs to balance out xD

That moment when Telion is so OP he is the new big unit.

 

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Do we know which Force Org slot these vanguard dudes are going to take up? I was thinking Elites but that slot is already the most overcrowded slot in the codex, but I can't think of any other slot they would fit in.

 

They could easily fit into the Heavy Support section (the T'au Sniper Drones already are Heavy Support as well). Especially if they pack more oomph than Scout Sniper rifles and are more in line with the AdMech Rangers Sniper rifles and the GSC Charactgers Sniper rifles.


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So, I think shadow spear might come with a new "whisper cutter" for primaris
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Maybe its that vehicle with fins at the back from the rumour image, something light, fast and stripped down


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I wonder if the Primaris will get a 'big' unit in that boxset, Chaos are getting Spider tank + Oblits, needs to balance out xD

 

Well, looking at Dark Imperium, there wasn't anything on the Primaris side to "balance" the Bloat Drone. But I definitely feel like there's something missing on the loyalist side, even accounting for the box containing some Mk7LookingVanguardTroopGuys and a Vanguard Captain.

 

 

I used to always smash it with my Hellblasters, maybe I got the lucky rolls xD


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I wonder if the Primaris will get a 'big' unit in that boxset, Chaos are getting Spider tank + Oblits, needs to balance out xD

 
Well, looking at Dark Imperium, there wasn't anything on the Primaris side to "balance" the Bloat Drone. But I definitely feel like there's something missing on the loyalist side, even accounting for the box containing some Mk7LookingVanguardTroopGuys and a Vanguard Captain.

Bloat drone equal is the often forgotten, Inceptor.

Though not perfect matches, they do have "equals".

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So, I think shadow spear might come with a new "whisper cutter" for primaris

 

I've seen this name mentioned a few times now. Is there an origin to that name?



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So, I think shadow spear might come with a new "whisper cutter" for primaris

 
I've seen this name mentioned a few times now. Is there an origin to that name?

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Bloat drone equal is the often forgotten, Inceptor.

Though not perfect matches, they do have "equals".

Command squad:
Gravis captain, 2 Lt.'s, ancient
LoC, plaguecaster, blightbringer

Mass Troops
Intercessors
Poxwalker

Specialty troop
Hellblaster
Plague Marines

"Fast attack"
Inceptor
Bloat drone

 

 

My point was that the Marines didn't have a "big unit" in Dark Imperium to balance the Bloat Drone, not that the forces were unbalanced/without equivalents.


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I think "vanguard" primaris might be what they call "old Marines" that got upgraded to primsris
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If that is the case Triszin, could that be why Telion is now a Primaris? To learn about the new organs, strength, differences and the take up a similar training role with after marines have been changed?



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Doubt it.


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