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Vanguard Space Marines - Shadowspear Box Set


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Cross draw of a weapon is a bad idea.

Anyway, i like the new bolter scout vanguard.

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I'm a little out of the loop but this thread is 90 something pages long now, why is Phobos keyword on reiver important?

I attempted to read back but it's mostly talking about pistol placement. Which chest mounted onto iotv is best ;)

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basically just because certain new powers and traits only work on things with the phobos keyword.


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basically just because certain new powers and traits only work on things with the phobos keyword.


Ah hmmm, I guess my hatred for the witch is preventing me from really using my flanking troops effectively. Sad times...
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basically just because certain new powers and traits only work on things with the phobos keyword.

Ah hmmm, I guess my hatred for the witch is preventing me from really using my flanking troops effectively. Sad times...

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Abhor the Witch, Destroy the Witch.


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So do we have an educated idea of when points for some of these units will be coming down? The next Chapter approved? I really like the units but for some of these it'll be yet another unit I take that clearly isn't great because of points costs (Thunderwolves ho!). That's fine for most games I play but occasionally I do like to actually win.



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Is there a little bit of a lack of synergy that most of the point of Vanguard is they can deploy up close turn one but Reivers cant insert until turn 2?

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Reivers seem to want to drop in with the LT to intercept something. In the lore they have been doing the Infiltrators job because infiltrators didn't actually exist yet for authors to write about. Now I imagine Reivers as a QRF to drop in where needed later on.
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Reivers seem to want to drop in with the LT to intercept something. In the lore they have been doing the Infiltrators job because infiltrators didn't actually exist yet for authors to write about. Now I imagine Reivers as a QRF to drop in where needed later on.


Do the rievers get the knife fighter rules? Or us that the lt only?
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I've only heard they get "PHOBOS". I anticipate an updated FAQ to give them the keyword so that update exists for those that didn't get shadow spear; maybe then they'll get the rule. Would make sense and if love it. I wonder if people have been asking GW that too to get them thinking
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So do we have an educated idea of when points for some of these units will be coming down? The next Chapter approved? I really like the units but for some of these it'll be yet another unit I take that clearly isn't great because of points costs (Thunderwolves ho!). That's fine for most games I play but occasionally I do like to actually win.


Precedent shows that the next Chapter Approved will be the place we can expect changes - that was the first place Intercessors dropped in points. However, the precedent is admittedly a small sample size. Furthermore, it took 18 months for Intercessors to land at 17 points.

It's possible we see it in the next big FAQ...but I would not hold your breath on that.

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question:

 

do the space wolves get the  "helix adapt" option for the infiltrators?

 

we have wolf priests (chaplain merged with apothecary), and since the helix adapt is a apothecary, can we take it?


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So do we have an educated idea of when points for some of these units will be coming down? The next Chapter approved? I really like the units but for some of these it'll be yet another unit I take that clearly isn't great because of points costs (Thunderwolves ho!). That's fine for most games I play but occasionally I do like to actually win.


Precedent shows that the next Chapter Approved will be the place we can expect changes - that was the first place Intercessors dropped in points. However, the precedent is admittedly a small sample size. Furthermore, it took 18 months for Intercessors to land at 17 points.
It's possible we see it in the next big FAQ...but I would not hold your breath on that.
Forgebane had an FAQ with new points lists almost immediately. So, we could see changes really at any point.

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question:

 

do the space wolves get the  "helix adapt" option for the infiltrators?

 

we have wolf priests (chaplain merged with apothecary), and since the helix adapt is a apothecary, can we take it?

 

It's not really an apothecary though. Maybe an apothecary in training at best so you can just flavour it as wolf priest in training lacking the chaplain qualities yet.


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The next big FAQ is scheduled this march, so I wouldn't hold my breath for adjustments right out of the gate... BUT. We know that main releases are worked out years before, finalised months before release, so it can be, that the points are already outdated (again, Dark Imperium point costs vs codex point costs)- We have to see.


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So do we have an educated idea of when points for some of these units will be coming down? The next Chapter approved? I really like the units but for some of these it'll be yet another unit I take that clearly isn't great because of points costs (Thunderwolves ho!). That's fine for most games I play but occasionally I do like to actually win.

Precedent shows that the next Chapter Approved will be the place we can expect changes - that was the first place Intercessors dropped in points. However, the precedent is admittedly a small sample size. Furthermore, it took 18 months for Intercessors to land at 17 points.
It's possible we see it in the next big FAQ...but I would not hold your breath on that.
Forgebane had an FAQ with new points lists almost immediately. So, we could see changes really at any point.
That was not quite the same situation. It's actually a good sign that we'll be waiting a long while.

It was about a month between Forgebane launch in late March and an FAQ released specifically for it in later April, but what people are so quick to forget is that this was entirely to link up with the points values printed in CA17...released months earlier.

I'd like to think they can fix this quick, but they haven't shown the ability to do that whatsoever.

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The next big FAQ is scheduled this march, so I wouldn't hold my breath for adjustments right out of the gate... BUT. We know that main releases are worked out years before, finalised months before release, so it can be, that the points are already outdated (again, Dark Imperium point costs vs codex point costs)- We have to see.

Pretty sure the Big FAQ 3 is just a "Spring FAQ" after last years whole debacle. If I remember correctly GWs testing team faced Flyrant spam at Adepticon and realised that their FAQ did nothing to prevent that and ended up delaying it into April. I sort of assume that April is their target this year, again mostly because of Adepticon. 

Still, I think your point stands, Shadowspear probably won't be adjusted in this upcoming Big FAQ. At least don't count on it



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So do we have an educated idea of when points for some of these units will be coming down? The next Chapter approved? I really like the units but for some of these it'll be yet another unit I take that clearly isn't great because of points costs (Thunderwolves ho!). That's fine for most games I play but occasionally I do like to actually win.

Precedent shows that the next Chapter Approved will be the place we can expect changes - that was the first place Intercessors dropped in points. However, the precedent is admittedly a small sample size. Furthermore, it took 18 months for Intercessors to land at 17 points.
It's possible we see it in the next big FAQ...but I would not hold your breath on that.
Forgebane had an FAQ with new points lists almost immediately. So, we could see changes really at any point.
That was not quite the same situation. It's actually a good sign that we'll be waiting a long while.

It was about a month between Forgebane launch in late March and an FAQ released specifically for it in later April, but what people are so quick to forget is that this was entirely to link up with the points values printed in CA17...released months earlier.

I'd like to think they can fix this quick, but they haven't shown the ability to do that whatsoever.

 

 

So...it actually IS the same situation as we have March again and there was a CA18 released just a few months ago. ;)


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question:

do the space wolves get the "helix adapt" option for the infiltrators?

we have wolf priests (chaplain merged with apothecary), and since the helix adapt is a apothecary, can we take it?


It's not really an apothecary though. Maybe an apothecary in training at best so you can just flavour it as wolf priest in training lacking the chaplain qualities yet.

Yea I’ll be ditching the mini narthecium in favor of some healing balms and vapor rub for sure. Didn’t you hear? All you need is essential oils brothers.
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question:

do the space wolves get the "helix adapt" option for the infiltrators?

we have wolf priests (chaplain merged with apothecary), and since the helix adapt is a apothecary, can we take it?


It's not really an apothecary though. Maybe an apothecary in training at best so you can just flavour it as wolf priest in training lacking the chaplain qualities yet.

Yea I’ll be ditching the mini narthecium in favor of some healing balms and vapor rub for sure. Didn’t you hear? All you need is essential oils brothers.

 

I just view wolves as comboing the apothecarium stuff with fenris mead.

 

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I just view wolves as comboing the apothecarium stuff with fenris mead.

 

 

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Now where to get power armoured hands holding tankards of beer...



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Now where to get power armoured hands holding tankards of beer...

 

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Now where to get power armoured hands holding tankards of beer...


Cut the top off a melta bomb then glue the handle part onto the side instead :)
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