Would you buy differently-posed Primarch models/figures?

[Mazryonh]

I remember seeing an old prototype sculpt of Fulgrim holding the IIIrd Legion's banner but nothing ever came of that sculpt. I think it would have been an interesting alternative sculpt to represent loyalist Fulgrim (if he was using Fireblade in that sculpt, which I can't recall).  Does anyone else remember that model and would have been interested in buying it?

 

Personally I would buy an alternative Rogal Dorn model. After seeing the very nice cover to Praetorian of Dorn I was so sure we'd get a combat pose based for Dorn based on that cover. Right now his current model's pose looks too sedate and his sword looks too short to reflect the bonus rules he gets while using that sword. Alternative models for hammerless Ferrus (showing him using just his fists in battle) or Wartorn Corvus Corax (looking all Rambo with his scavenged Heavy Bolter and broken wings) would be nice in my opinion too.

 

Or perhaps we should be pestering GW to make action figures of HH Primarchs so we can pose them however we want?

[Elzender]

The Fulgrim alternative sculpt came up again in the Sanguinius thread a few days ago, and I had to look it up because I did not recall having ever seen it. I think somebody on this forum made a conversion on the official Fulgrim to make it similar, holding a standard.

 

As for alternative poses, it would be nice, but we should at least wait until all primarchs get at least an official miniature. I kinda agree with Dorn's stance, as fitting as it is for his character, I am not completely convinced by it. A combat stance would have been nice, tearing traitors apart with his Storm's Teeth, but it is true that he has never been defined as a combat monster. Thus, I would have liked to see him doing what he does best: commanding his troops. Not just pointing up with his sword like Guilliman, but motioning with his arms and hands, shouting to his legionaries to go over that trench and send back the traitors to hell. I have been looking at bits stores to see the individual parts, and I have wondered whether it such a conversion would be viable. However, the price makes it a very risky prospect, as I don't think I would dare to put it under the knife with my skills. Even if somehow I managed to pull it off, I do know that I don't have a good enough painting level for such a miniature.

[Slips]

The Fulgrim holding the Banner is a conversion/kitbash done by our very own Kizzdougs

[Elzender]

The Fulgrim holding the Banner is a conversion/kitbash done by our very own Kizzdougs

Thanks Slips, I was not sure if it was Kizz or Grieux, I sometimes mix them up with their jaw-dropping conversions :D

[Luna707]

Hell yeah I would! I love reposing them myself, but I would love to see the professionals make more versions of the boys. Some duel dioramas/not tabletop game versions would be awesome 

[Kizzdougs]

This is the alternative version of Fulgrim that people are talking about. Personally, I think that this was the original version, but they changed the design when they decided to make a Fulgrim/Ferrus diorama (I have absolutely no evidence to support this opinion...).

 

 

 

And this was my conversion of the Primarch. 

 

I'm also planning to do a Fulgrim/Sangunius mash up at some stage too.

[SkimaskMohawk]

His face is so much better on the unreleased version

[Blindhamster]

The unreleased head would have made an excellent basis for a sanguinius head

[Charlo]

Unsure about this one... I quite enjoy the Primarch models being totally unique and representative of them. I almost wonder if the only reason we should get alternatives are to represent different rules or a drastic change (Khan on jetbike, Horus empowered with Chaos etc)

 

That said I'll agree some of the Primarch models are quite divisive in their posing - especially the more static ones.

 

Also god damn that Fulgrim face is baller, though I can see why they went for the Scream with him fighting Ferrus.

[sarabando]

im planning on a Corax conversion in a squating batman style pose and id love to see some more poses, a fighting Guillman, or lorgar.

[Mogsam]

That Fulgrim head is ace, he looks so smug it's incredibly appropriate. Would make that model so much better.

[LukeTheButcher]

Yes.

 

I am not a fan of the dynamic sculpts (and seems a good few people don't like the statics ones too). Optional sculpts would give both sides a Primarch they could get and enjoy.

 

And that alternate Fulgrims Head? Top class. A little stubble and a squared chin would make it look good for Russ too (in my mind) - As I see Russ as one of the more 'amused' Primarchs :-)

[Gorgoff]

Or perhaps we should be pestering GW to make action figures of HH Primarchs so we can pose them however we want?

YES

[bluntblade]

Not that I actually play, but my pretence would be for helmets. I'd love to see Lorgar's tricorn in particular.

[Amun Ra]

Not that I actually play, but my pretence would be for helmets. I'd love to see Lorgar's tricorn in particular.

Yeah. Would love helmet options for several of them. I wouldn't buy differently posed versions of those I have bought though, they are expensive enough as is.

[Mazryonh]

This is the alternative version of Fulgrim that people are talking about.

 

Thank you very much for posting the old photo. I knew the original was an FW creation and not just your conversion. Still don't know why they didn't release the original sculpt as a loyalist version of Fulgrim with Fireblade instead. He would also look better with his hair down as well.

 

Unsure about this one... I quite enjoy the Primarch models being totally unique and representative of them. I almost wonder if the only reason we should get alternatives are to represent different rules or a drastic change (Khan on jetbike, Horus empowered with Chaos etc)

 

That said I'll agree some of the Primarch models are quite divisive in their posing - especially the more static ones.

 

Also god damn that Fulgrim face is baller, though I can see why they went for the Scream with him fighting Ferrus.

 

My guess is that Khan will be a "model and a half"; you might be able to attach his torso to his legs when he's standing on his base while on foot, or to the legs attached to his jetbike so you can swap between both models when you need to without needing to buy two separate models.

 

And yes, Horus needs another model to show him empowered by Chaos near the end of the Siege of Terra. It's just too iconic not to.

 

That Fulgrim head is ace, he looks so smug it's incredibly appropriate. Would make that model so much better.

 

Wasn't the primary failing of the IIIrd legion being their excessive pride? The smug look on Fulgrim's face works really well to that end.

 

Not that I actually play, but my pretence would be for helmets. I'd love to see Lorgar's tricorn in particular.

 

Providing helmets should be easy (just make a helmeted head that plugs into the rest of the Primarch model for each), but FW hasn't done so except for Alpharius. I remember seeing Vulkan's helmet on the cover of a BL book; where did you see Lorgar's helmet?

[malika666]

Primarch helmets would be sweet!

[bluntblade]

Maz, it hasn't been pictured but it's mentioned in Betrayer

[Mazryonh]

The Fulgrim alternative sculpt came up again in the Sanguinius thread a few days ago, and I had to look it up because I did not recall having ever seen it. I think somebody on this forum made a conversion on the official Fulgrim to make it similar, holding a standard.

 

As for alternative poses, it would be nice, but we should at least wait until all primarchs get at least an official miniature. I kinda agree with Dorn's stance, as fitting as it is for his character, I am not completely convinced by it. A combat stance would have been nice, tearing traitors apart with his Storm's Teeth, but it is true that he has never been defined as a combat monster. Thus, I would have liked to see him doing what he does best: commanding his troops. Not just pointing up with his sword like Guilliman, but motioning with his arms and hands, shouting to his legionaries to go over that trench and send back the traitors to hell. I have been looking at bits stores to see the individual parts, and I have wondered whether it such a conversion would be viable. However, the price makes it a very risky prospect, as I don't think I would dare to put it under the knife with my skills. Even if somehow I managed to pull it off, I do know that I don't have a good enough painting level for such a miniature.

 

All of the known Primarchs (with the exception of Lorgar, and that's only a marginal case) were made to be combat monsters in their own way. When push came to shove Dorn did his bloodline proud. Besides, the moment you choose to field Dorn you're essentially putting him into harm's way for the benefit of leading his troops personally.

 

Maz, it hasn't been pictured but it's mentioned in Betrayer

 

All the more reason for one of Black Library's excellent artists to get on it already and make an excellent illustration for Lorgar's helmet! I'm sure it would be as good as Vulkan's helmet on the cover of a BL novel. So would a 30k version of the Lion Helm for Lion El'Jonson.

[queen_annes_revenge]

a reposed Fulgrim is the only reason I'd buy. I think russ shouldve been given a beard too. I'm fairly happy with all the rest of them.

[Elzender]

Mazryonh, of course all primarchs are unstoppable combat monsters, what I meant (I see now I could have worded it better) is that when you think of Dorn, what comes to mind in the first place is not "Duellist/executioner/transhuman blender/force-o-nature" like it is often associated with Angron, Fulgrim, Sanguinius, Russ and the likes. He and his legion are more often praised as siege masters on both sides (then again, I am curious to see situations during the Crusade where Legions had to resist a siege from an enemy, I don't think there were that many) and naval warfare experts (some sources state the VII has the largest fleet). Obviously, Dorn is very skilled in close combat, after all his genetic material ended up spawning Sigismund and his zealous bunch :D, but it is not his most prominent aspect. Edited February 18, 2019 by Elzender

[Mazryonh]

Mazryonh, of course all primarchs are unstoppable combat monsters, what I meant (I see now I could have worded it better) is that when you think of Dorn, what comes to mind in the first place is not "Duellist/executioner/transhuman blender/force-o-nature" like it is often associated with Angron, Fulgrim, Sanguinius, Russ and the likes. He and his legion are more often praised as siege masters on both sides (then again, I am curious to see situations during the Crusade where Legions had to resist a siege from an enemy, I don't think there were that many) and naval warfare experts (some sources state the VII has the largest fleet). Obviously, Dorn is very skilled in close combat, after all his genetic material ended up spawning Sigismund and his zealous bunch , but it is not his most prominent aspect.

 

Thank you for explaining things. Yes, Dorn is almost always going to be commanding things from a safe locale. My issue is more with Dorn's pose. This is because the moment you choose to field Dorn, what you're essentially doing is choosing for him to enter the battlefield and take a personal hand in things. The pose FW gave Dorn is more suited for observing a battlefield from a locale in which he is in no danger. However, every tabletop gaming scenario is in effect an active battlefield, one where the enemy could be coming at any moment from any direction.

 

In other words, Dorn's pose is well suited for a display model, not for someone who's on an active battlefield and looking to (or about to) get things done personally. That, and the blade portion of his chainsword looks too short for the rules it has; the blade looks more like one suitable for a one-handed sword rather than a two-handed one--the hilt of Storm's Teeth certainly looks long enough for both of Dorn's hands.

[queen_annes_revenge]

I think Dorns model is fitting for his image. I find the IF legion as dull as dishwater in their image, their lore and their style, but he always comes across as more of a general type. less a lead from the front guy, and more a master tactician.

[Elzender]

Mazryonh, we actually agree on that, in my first post I mentioned that I would have liked to see him commanding the troops :D.

 

And queen_annes_revenge, those are fighting words! I demand a duel at dawn!

[Vogon]

I’d love to see an alternative Alpharius/Omegon, then field both.

 

Someone on here did an awesome conversion a while ago. Looked bloody amazing.

 

Cheers

 

Vogon