Does the Inquisition have authority over Guilliman?

[Slave to Darkness]

Just wondering, as far as I am aware and correct me if I'm wrong, but the Inquisition was formed to make sure nothing like the Heresy happens again, so In theory an Inquisitor has the power to question Guillimans 'trust me I'm in charge' claim?

 

As its not just the Ultramarines who were there for Guillimans revival could an Inquisitor declare him a Heretic considering he was bought back with Eldar death magic?

[USNCenturion]

They sure do.

 

They also have the ability to get their head caved in by an angry primarch or their 10,000 legionary followers.

 

All but the most radical (or Puritan I suppose) I think would say anything in opposition to Guilliman at this point.

[Slave to Darkness]

Well if he gets his head caved in then that declares Guilliman as a heretic anyway... Win win situation lol. 

 

Finally got some background fluff for my next Inquisitor... Bobby G is a xenos sleeper cell currently ruling the Imperium of man, the Primaris are abominations and must be put down. Instead of my dislike for the current lore and the primaris spilling over into my posts I have decided to take it to the tabletop and launch a crusade of TRUE Astartes against local Primaris players... :wub: 

[Sete]

Our Martyred Lady will shed some light on this. The audio book coming 23rd of Feb.

Celestine and Greyfax are trying to stop a civil war in the Imperium post Guilliman return.

[Brother Casman]

Of course, one would have to ask the question: how did the Inquistor find out the details of what happened on Macragge all those years ago?

[Sete]

Greyfax. But i suppose any eldar involvement was buried.

No one would admit to Eldar help on the official chronicles

[Brother Casman]

I was referring to Slave to Darkness' "new" inquisitor, Sete.

[Sete]

I was referring to Slave to Darkness' "new" inquisitor, Sete.

Misread ;)

[Slave to Darkness]

Pur Martyred Lady will shed some light on this. The audio book coming 23rd of Feb.

Celestine and Greyfax are trying to stop a civil war in the Imperium post Guilliman return.

Sounds good, Ill deffo give that a listen to... 

[Slave to Darkness]

Of course, one would have to ask the question: how did the Inquistor find out the details of what happened on Macragge all those years ago?

He could have been an Interrogator working under Greyfax maybe, or another Inquisitor who stumbled upon info from Greyfax reporting back to her superiors and thought 'hmmm that doesn't make sense'. Tbh I never thought about that, thanks for bringing it up. :tu:

[Sete]

Or you know, webway portal in the moon? Dig a bit, lots of witnesses there. Rumours of harlequins, whispers of a new eldar death god...

[Brother Casman]

[snip]

He could have been an Interrogator working under Greyfax maybe, or another Inquisitor who stumbled upon info from Greyfax reporting back to her superiors and thought 'hmmm that doesn't make sense'. Tbh I never thought about that, thanks for bringing it up.

Yeah, no prob - I do enjoy a good backstory, and this seems like it could happen in a setting like 40k.

[Slave to Darkness]

Greyfax is Ordo Hereticus isnt she? Radical or Puritan?

[Sete]

Don't think it's explicitly told.

She's Ordo Hereticus, a repentant psyker and she never fully trusted celestine, thinking she could be a fake saint.

[Brother Casman]

Aye, I think she tends towards Puritan, since she's not happy with being a psyker, if I remember rightly.

[Slave to Darkness]

But shes chill with Xenos Psykers giving mouth to mouth with a Primarch... She should have put them all down with a bolt round to the cranium... 

[Rik Lightstar]

If Custodes outrank the Inquisition, which seems pretty Implicit, then Guilliman as the Emperor's Regent does too.

 

Also, as the Emperor's Regent, everything he does (unless it directly threatens the Emperor) is for the good of the Imperium, because he effectively IS the Imperium.

 

Also, being backed by the Custodes, the vast majority (if not all) of the Loyal Chapters, and I'd expect the Soritas too, through the involvement of Celestine, it's a pretty unassailable position.

 

Rik

[Brother Casman]

But shes chill with Xenos Psykers giving mouth to mouth with a Primarch... She should have put them all down with a bolt round to the cranium...

Weellll... there was a lot going on at the time, what with the Black Legion assault happening.

[Slave to Darkness]

If Custodes outrank the Inquisition, which seems pretty Implicit, then Guilliman as the Emperor's Regent does too.

 

Also, as the Emperor's Regent, everything he does (unless it directly threatens the Emperor) is for the good of the Imperium, because he effectively IS the Imperium.

 

Also, being backed by the Custodes, the vast majority (if not all) of the Loyal Chapters, and I'd expect the Soritas too, through the involvement of Celestine, it's a pretty unassailable position.

 

Rik

Good point, but whats the point in having an Inquisition if they cant do their job?

[Rik Lightstar]

 

If Custodes outrank the Inquisition, which seems pretty Implicit, then Guilliman as the Emperor's Regent does too.

 

Also, as the Emperor's Regent, everything he does (unless it directly threatens the Emperor) is for the good of the Imperium, because he effectively IS the Imperium.

 

Also, being backed by the Custodes, the vast majority (if not all) of the Loyal Chapters, and I'd expect the Soritas too, through the involvement of Celestine, it's a pretty unassailable position.

 

Rik

Good point, but whats the point in having an Inquisition if they cant do their job?

 

 

They can do their job, investigating, eleminating and preventing threats to The Emperor and His Regent and by extension The Imperium.

 

Also, I think the balance really is tipped by the fact even if the entire Inquisition decided that they disapprove:

1. He out-ranks them, so they're wrong, and he can bring the full military force of the Imperium (or his own big metal gloves and flaming sword) to bear until they change their minds.
2. Do they actually have any way they can be sure of to take him down, they were pretty sure he was dead last time.

I'd imagine the Inquisition are treading pretty lightly around the topic.

 

Rik

[Slave to Darkness]

True true. 

Still think one man should not rule on his own, especially one with connections to Xenos. Bloody Heretics... 

[librisrouge]

The inquisition is set apart from the rest of the Imperium and, theoretically, is ranked only below the Emperor himself.

 

That being said, even in 40k a bit a realism has to occur.

 

1) The Custodes - These guys are unimpeachable and their mandate pre-dates the inquisition itself. Anything related to the palace and Him is under their purview and no inquisitor worth is rosette would question that.

 

2) Guilleman - This guy has too many things going for him. He's met the Emperor and, supposedly, gotten his approval. He is Imperial Regent of the Imperium. He is a primarch with an unimpeachable record of loyalty. He is popular and basically saved the Imperium. Moving against him is a good way to, at best, throw the Imperium into civil war. Again, no inquisitor worth their rosette would do it.

 

3) Space Marines - These guys basically stand outside the Imperium. While that doesn't set the apart from the inquisition's authority, they have the independence and power to make any investigation into them and influence on them difficult at best.

 

4) Adeptus Mechanicus - See above but with servitors and tech assassins.

[Rik Lightstar]

True true. 

Still think one man should not rule on his own, especially one with connections to Xenos. Bloody Heretics... 

 

The Emperor ruled on his own, and made deals with the Chaos Gods, and would have made deals with the Eldar if the right deal could be made.

 

Rik

[Robbienw]

Made deals with the chaos gods....according to the chaos gods.

[Arkangilos]

Also, the inquisition as a whole isn’t a unified body.

 

If one Inquisitor saw fit to declare him a heretic, the chances are most of his fellows would turn on him (not the primarch) for being schismatic against the Imperium.