So, the Ork codex has been out for a bit and while it really seemed ready to shake up the meta at the LVO Orks didn't place too highly (though that could be because everyone built lists to counter them /shurg).
So my question is where do you think Orks sit right now within 8th edition? What klans/tactics do you enjoy using? Has vigilus specialist formations offered you anything?
Let's try to keep the distinction between local meta and the competitive meta.
In my own experience playing within my local meta (just me and my friends) Orks are strong! They hit hard and can control the board due to numbers, quick moving units, and of course da jump. I'm loving using deathskulls even with minimal MSU's the rerolls and more importantly invuln saves have really done some work. I have yet to lose while playing orks (only about 10 games though) and a few of those have been close run things. One game I had 10 gretchin, a weirdboy, and a trukk as the only things left on the map but I had their points doubled due to objectives.
Best units for me have been the tankbustas! I always take at least two squads of these guys and they constantly put in work. I've heard people going gaga for the lootas but for me tankbustas are where it is at. Their built in rerolls vs vehicles and flat dmg 3 means they take down just about anything. They are probably the best anti-flyer in the game (imo).
Honorable mention is warboss: brutal but kunning + killa klaw + fists of gork = a knight dead per combat phase (usually) hilariously he suffers vs hordes and good invuln. saves
I struggle the most with their staying power, squads of 30 boyz are great but most armies can focus fire down a full squad (or more) a turn. And once the boyz run out my army loses a lot of its teef (pun intended). Usually though because I can control most of the objectives turn 1 I can skate by on points or do enough damage that even though I lose all the boyz turn 3 the enemy has little left. I also hate that almost every "competitive" list seems to just be based around Lootas, is this the only way orks are seeing success?
What do you think? Are orks top tier or somewhere in the middle? What's been working well for you? Is the only way to play them green tide + lootas? I haven't tried any of the vigilus specialist detachments, any gems in there?