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Chaos Space Marines - Range Refresh


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The Chaos Lord/Sorceror in Terminator armour is here to stay. I'm plenty happy with what we have gotten so far but it would've been nice for that model to get an update, too. Ah well!


I would imagine you could bash parts of the current kit with parts from the new Termies to deal with any potential scale issues and make something a bit more unique too.
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Hopefully we get a new Night Lords upgrade kit in the nearish future - I'd love to see GW's latest take on their infamous winged helms.


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Well, maybe guy with flame mace is something like DG Lord of Contagion, i.e. still terminator lord but different unit so they both can coexist.



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Hopefully we get a new Night Lords upgrade kit in the nearish future - I'd love to see GW's latest take on their infamous winged helms.

 

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Ugh, one red wing? Why the change? The classic icon worked fine!

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I must say I do like the new direction Chaos is going. Want old marines? Go Chaos. Want primaris marines? Go Loyalists. That way Chaos isn’t just Space Marines WITH SPIKES!!


Yes. I envisaged this last year. Double down on the warp empowered, mystical baroque look of Chaos and make the loyalists high tech and clean with hover tanks and advanced weapons.

No more Spikey loyalists or duplicated, mirrored units. Will be so much better.

 

 

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"Warp Talons
Warp Talons are the ‘hammer’ of any Night Lords army based around the Host Raptorial, capable of scything through pretty-much anyone and anything unfortunate enough to get in their way. The Host Raptorial makes Warp Talons even deadlier with the Vicious Descent Stratagem, allowing you to re-roll hit rolls when you charge. This combines very well with the Warp Talons’ ability to re-roll failed wound rolls thanks to their lightning claws."

 

Yeah. Too bad that doesn't change anything about Warp Talons being trash-tier. Good job GW. Giving a 2 CP stratagem to make them reroll failed hits doesn't change the fact that Warp Talons can't utilize their main ability, nor are they even that good in melee. :facepalm:


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The loyalists have always looked a bit cleaner and higher tech than the chaos marines.  They've never been spikey.  Some units are more decorative of course, but there is no loyalist spikeyness.

 

And you will still have the same duplicate vehicle units, as the chaos range uses most of the SM range vehicles with spikes added.



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I guess no new terminator lord/sorcerer kit just yet...

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Of yourse in this picture we can see old CSMs in the background... so who knows...

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"Warp Talons
Warp Talons are the ‘hammer’ of any Night Lords army based around the Host Raptorial, capable of scything through pretty-much anyone and anything unfortunate enough to get in their way. The Host Raptorial makes Warp Talons even deadlier with the Vicious Descent Stratagem, allowing you to re-roll hit rolls when you charge. This combines very well with the Warp Talons’ ability to re-roll failed wound rolls thanks to their lightning claws."

Yeah. Too bad that doesn't change anything about Warp Talons being trash-tier. Good job GW. Giving a 2 CP stratagem to make them reroll failed hits doesn't change the fact that Warp Talons can't utilize their main ability, nor are they even that good in melee. :facepalm:


Ya, was hoping they'd get a strat that causes terror tactics to effect to grow, 12". But no
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Giving the Host Raptorial a rereoll charge stratagem on the turn in which they enter would have been much better. Could maybe be the trait for the detachment commander, perhaps himself and units within x inches?

 

The Master of Possession looks ace in Night Lord colours.


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"check back later for renegades" - certainly will. My new (potential) Fallen Army rest on how good these guys get smile.png


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Ahhhh GW. Make amazing models, give them poor rules, and then continually give them buffs that don't actually fix the flaws that made them bad in the first place. tongue.png

 

EDIT: Still, the Renegades look good

 

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Damn 3rd ed dark green Alpha Legion look awesome on the new models.
 

 

 

Ahhhh GW. Make amazing models, give them poor rules, and then continually give them buffs that don't actually fix the flaws that made them bad in the first place. tongue.png

 

EDIT: Still, the Renegades look good

 

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Is the purple one an Angel of Extinction ? That'd be insane !

 

Nice to see more of The Cleaved too. Almost starded a small warband back then.


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I don't know if it's the same everywhere but the Terminator Lord is sold out and no longer available on the GW webstore for me. 


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"Warp Talons
Warp Talons are the ‘hammer’ of any Night Lords army based around the Host Raptorial, capable of scything through pretty-much anyone and anything unfortunate enough to get in their way. The Host Raptorial makes Warp Talons even deadlier with the Vicious Descent Stratagem, allowing you to re-roll hit rolls when you charge. This combines very well with the Warp Talons’ ability to re-roll failed wound rolls thanks to their lightning claws."

 

Yeah. Too bad that doesn't change anything about Warp Talons being trash-tier. Good job GW. Giving a 2 CP stratagem to make them reroll failed hits doesn't change the fact that Warp Talons can't utilize their main ability, nor are they even that good in melee. facepalm.png

 

Even worse, that Stratagem only works the turn they come in from reserves but since it's unlikely for them to make the charge in the first place and you have nothing to change that you essentially just waste one additional CP in hope you might make the charge once in a blue moon. It basically makes taking Warp Talons even more punishing for the CSM player than it already is. biggrin.png


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"Warp Talons
Warp Talons are the ‘hammer’ of any Night Lords army based around the Host Raptorial, capable of scything through pretty-much anyone and anything unfortunate enough to get in their way. The Host Raptorial makes Warp Talons even deadlier with the Vicious Descent Stratagem, allowing you to re-roll hit rolls when you charge. This combines very well with the Warp Talons’ ability to re-roll failed wound rolls thanks to their lightning claws."

 

Yeah. Too bad that doesn't change anything about Warp Talons being trash-tier. Good job GW. Giving a 2 CP stratagem to make them reroll failed hits doesn't change the fact that Warp Talons can't utilize their main ability, nor are they even that good in melee. facepalm.png

Even worse, that Stratagem only works the turn they come in from reserves but since it's unlikely for them to make the charge in the first place and you have nothing to change that you essentially just waste one additional CP in case you might make the charge once in a blue moon. It basically makes taking Warp Talons even more punishing for the CSM player than it already is. biggrin.png

-disgusted noise-

 

That makes it even worse....



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I think it's pretty clear at this point that somebody on the GW rules team was violated repeatedly by CSM during the golden 3.5 era and is now on a decades long crusade against all traitor marines, no matter how spikey they may be. No other explanation quite fits the bill.

 

Still, positive thinking: I am keen to see the Renegades preview. Having god-specific templates for traitors other than the big 4 is a great step in the right direction. With marks being essentially meaningless now, I'd love to see a Tzeentch or Khorne themed CSM army feeling different beyond the unit choices taken by their owners.


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Man, I'm not sure how many more -1s to Ld debuffs my Night Lords army needs. Certainly not enough to spend 1 CP. Now if the stratagem was to spend 1 CP in the morale phase and force a unit within 6" to take a morale test or even a second morale test, that would be cool. 

 

I guess Vicious Descent could get some use on shooty raptor units since it doesn't specify CC attacks. But as it is I have no reason to ever use the Host Raptorial.



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What is the lord in the middle of the picture?

BTW, is this the new gatling CSM in the front?



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They only showed up one stratagem for the Host. Maybe there's more? Maybe we'll get the 3d6 charge one from the BAs ported over?

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I'm 90% sure that Terminator Sorcerer is the same model they used for The Scourged back then and they just repainted the head and shoulder pads.

 

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They only showed up one stratagem for the Host. Maybe there's more? Maybe we'll get the 3d6 charge one from the BAs ported over?

A guy can dream.

 

They've shown two Stratagems for the Host, though. The only things left would be a Warlord trait and a relic if it follows the same template as the other small specialist detachments in Vigilus 1. 


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A small thing, but something that jumped out at me was:

 

or butcher cannon-armed Contemptor Dreadnoughts…

 

 

How often do articles about mainstream GW releases acknowledge the existence of Forgeworld models?


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