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Looking for thoughts on this brigade and battalion list.

 

The plan is to put only minimum units on the board and have everything come in from reserves turn 2 and 3.

Atalans are there to use Lying in Wait but could swap them out for an Achilles for more continual shots.

After all the pre game strategems and the extra d3 from inscrutable cunning I’ll have between 15 and 17 CP

 

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [79 PL, 1355pts, -6CP] ++

 

+ No Force Org Slot +

 

Cult Creed: None (Mixed Detachment)

 

Specialist Detachment: Anointed Throng [-1CP]

 

Stratagem: Broodcoven [-1CP]

 

Stratagem: Grandsire's Gifts [-3CP]: 2 Extra Sacred Relics

 

+ HQ +

 

Abominant [6 PL, 105pts, -1CP]: Stratagem: Field Commander, Warlord Trait: Insidious Mindwyrm

 

Acolyte Iconward [3 PL, 53pts]: Icon of the Cult Ascendant

 

Magus [4 PL, 80pts]: Broodcoven Magus, Power: Mass Hypnosis, Power: Might From Beyond, Warlord Trait: Inscrutable Cunning

 

Primus [4 PL, 75pts]: Bonesword, Broodcoven Primus, Warlord Trait: Alien Majesty

 

+ Troops +

 

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 35pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid

. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

 

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 35pts]: 4x Acolyte Hybrid

. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

 

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 65pts]: Cult Icon

. 2x Acolyte Hybrid

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

 

Acolyte Hybrids [3 PL, 65pts]: Cult Icon

. 2x Acolyte Hybrid

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Autopistol, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Leader: Autopistol, Cultist Knife

 

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 110pts]: Cult Icon

. 7x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 7x Hand Flamer

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

 

Acolyte Hybrids [6 PL, 110pts]: Cult Icon

. 7x Acolyte Hybrid (Hand Flamer): 7x Hand Flamer

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Hybrid (Heavy Weapon): Hand Flamer, Heavy Rock Saw

. Acolyte Leader: Cultist Knife, Hand Flamer

 

+ Elites +

 

Aberrants [14 PL, 280pts]

. 4x Aberrant (Hammer): 4x Heavy Power Hammer

. 4x Aberrant (Pick): 4x Power Pick

. 2x Aberrant Hypermorph (Improvised): 2x Heavy Improvised Weapon

 

Clamavus [3 PL, 55pts]

 

Nexos [3 PL, 50pts]

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Cult Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 40pts]

. Cult Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon

 

Cult Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 40pts]

. Cult Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon

 

Cult Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 40pts]

. Cult Armoured Sentinel: Autocannon

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Brood Brothers Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 39pts]

. 3x Brood Brothers Weapons Team: 3x Mortar

 

Brood Brothers Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 39pts]

. 3x Brood Brothers Weapons Team: 3x Mortar

 

Brood Brothers Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 39pts]

. 3x Brood Brothers Weapons Team: 3x Mortar

 

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [35 PL, 645pts] ++

 

+ No Force Org Slot +

 

Cult Creed: The Bladed Cog

 

+ HQ +

 

Jackal Alphus [4 PL, 70pts]

 

Patriarch [8 PL, 137pts]: Familiar, Power: Mass Hypnosis, Power: Mental Onslaught, The Crouchling, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Biomorph Adaptation

 

+ Troops +

 

Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 80pts]: 5x Neophyte Hybrid

. 2x Neophyte Hybrid (Grenade): 2x Grenade Launcher

. 2x Neophyte Hybrid (Mining): 2x Mining Laser

. Neophyte Leader: Autogun, Autopistol

 

Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 74pts]: 7x Neophyte Hybrid

. 2x Neophyte Hybrid (Mining): 2x Mining Laser

. Neophyte Leader: Autogun, Autopistol

 

Neophyte Hybrids [4 PL, 74pts]: 7x Neophyte Hybrid

. 2x Neophyte Hybrid (Mining): 2x Mining Laser

. Neophyte Leader: Autogun, Autopistol

 

+ Elites +

 

Kelermorph [3 PL, 60pts]

 

Sanctus [3 PL, 60pts]: Silencer Sniper Rifle

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Atalan Jackals [5 PL, 90pts]

. Atalan Jackal: Demolition Charge, Shotgun

. Atalan Jackal: Demolition Charge, Shotgun

. Atalan Jackal: Demolition Charge, Shotgun

. Atalan Leader: Demolition Charge, Grenade Launcher

. Atalan : Mining Laser, Shotgun

 

++ Total: [114 PL, 2000pts, -6CP] ++

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The Rocksaws and icon on units of only 5 models is a waste, they will often die to overwatch. I would also advise against putting hand flamers and rocksaws in the same unit since they are build for very different targets.

You have a ton of CP, so lets Drop the Nexos, the grenade launchers off of the neophytes, and drop the abberants down to using picks. This sets up your abberants for killing heavy infantry, while your new rocksaw blobs handle the tanks. We can drop the sanctus too just to give us a few more points.

Your new troops section is:

13x Acolytes (4 rocksaws, Cult Icon)
13x Acolytes (4 rocksaws, Cult Icon)
10x Acolytes (10x Hand Flamers)
5x Acolytes
5x Acolytes
5x Acolytes

With this you can have 2 melee blobs to charge out of reserve, bonus points if you make them a broodsurge for the +1 to wound stratagem, letting the rocksaws rip knights apart.

You have 10 hand flamers to "lying in wait" to deal with more squishy troops.

And you maintain 3 5 man objective grabber units should you need them.

My $0.02

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Thanks for the advice. I built this before having a chance to play with GSC in 8th, and i completely agree small acolyte squads are a waste. They utterly die to overwatch and if they are lucky enough to get in, will die shortly afterwards.

I will have to give the pick abberants a try and run larger blobs of acolytes. Problem with dropping the nexos is i then need to find something to fill out that elite slot. I could move the kelermorph over there but then he cant buff the neophytes

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