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New box set rumours. The lion v ?


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I’ve just seen another lion rumour on BOLS.

‘The Rumor Rumormongers tell us there is a new boxed set of some type coming for 40K. One of the sides is described as “The Lion” The other side may be Imperial!’

Source: https://www.belloflo...ocking-foe.html

Grab a pile of salt because I don’t think for a minute a Primarch would be released as part of a box set.

It may be the lion headed fallen daemon prince with a fallen army.

It may be DA v choas guard or dark mec, both of which have had models released in Blackstone Fortress.

Maybe a mix of both with a fallen leading chaos guard.

Edited by JJD, 12 April 2019 - 07:22 AM.


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Ok there is a rumour of a new big box (think waking the dead) which is Dark Angels V an Imperial (sisters?) army....

 

Now thinking about this I think thats a good step for GW...

 

i) bring out another primark model without upsetting the current Imperial balance.

ii) frees up the Imperial all bike army design space for the White Scars

iii) allows a heritical all bike army

iv) frees up the Imperial all terminator army design space for the Iron Hands

v) can be done so DAngles can be fields as heritical, Imperial or unaligned.....

vi) could be well done story wise and open all sorts of future stories.

 

(I posted this here http://www.bolterand...-40k/?p=5295289 but putting it here because it makes more sense...)

 

note I didnt here it from BOLS or from some one who frequents the site.... collective opion in my local club is that BOLS is click bait and full of ......


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note I didnt here it from BOLS or from some one who frequents the site.... collective opion in my local club is that BOLS is click bait and full of ......

 

 

Funny you should say that, as I was midway through replying to the OP "this is probably just usual BoLS unfounded clickbait"...


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Yeah, DA are not traitors, even if I don't consider then totally loyal: for them the most important thing is being loyal to the chapter, to hide their dark secrets, but if no secret is involved they will always go for the "Purge the Heretic" way.

If it wasn't BOLS and I was going to believe the rumour I would had said that this "Lion" was a daemon prince that took the old name of the primach as his own nickname.


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Yeah if its 'DA' on one side and imperial on the other it will be Fallen vs Imperial or Fallen vs Dark Angels.  Dark Angels are not and never will be traitors, the fluff makes this perfectly clear.


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New box set yay thats all i have on this.



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Yeah if its 'DA' on one side and imperial on the other it will be Fallen vs Imperial or Fallen vs Dark Angels.  Dark Angels are not and never will be traitors, the fluff makes this perfectly clear.

 

Neither were the Soul Drinkers... but they were still deemed Heretics 

 

ps, never say never... we know that GW have said about Marine Legions/Chapeters... 1 WILL FALL & 1 Will return


Edited by Slasher956, 12 April 2019 - 07:52 AM.

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ps, never say never... we know that GW have said about Marine Legions/Chapeters... 1 WILL FALL & 1 Will return

 

Source or it didn't happen.


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Yeah, DA are not traitors, even if I don't consider then totally loyal: for them the most important thing is being loyal to the chapter, to hide their dark secrets, but if no secret is involved they will always go for the "Purge the Heretic" way.

What a defense, they're not traitors because they're loyal to themselves rolleyesclean.gif

 

I'd say the act of betrayal makes you a traitor. Like whenever they betray whatever loyalists forces near them because they decided its hush hush secret time.

You don't have to be a chaos worshipper or aiming to overthrow the imperium to be a traitor.



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Yeah if its 'DA' on one side and imperial on the other it will be Fallen vs Imperial or Fallen vs Dark Angels.  Dark Angels are not and never will be traitors, the fluff makes this perfectly clear.

 

Neither were the Soul Drinkers... but they were still deemed Heretics 

 

ps, never say never... we know that GW have said about Marine Legions/Chapeters... 1 WILL FALL & 1 Will return

 

 

GW have never said that.  And Soul Drinkers were a minor chapter made up for a minor novel series. 

 

They aren't going to suddenly have the Dark Angels become traitors, just like they aren't going to do it to the BA or the SW.  It would be absurd.


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Wasn't there a box rumor around when the latest DA codex hit the stores, as well?


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Sounds like usual BOLS nonsense to me.


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To be fair this could descend into a huge vitriol filled pit of doom of loyal vs heretic awfulness so be careful fraters :)


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To Sum up:

 

For this RUMOUR being true:

makes business sense as it opens design space for two other SM Legions in the Imperial forces

utilises open design space in the heritical forces

progresses the story of both the Legion, the chapter & the universe as a whole

allows the release of another primarch

could have been miss-interpreted and its a fallen DAngles force (so chaos) pretending to be loyalist (as happens)

 

for being false:

DAnagels are not traitors..

 

 

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ps, never say never... we know that GW have said about Marine Legions/Chapeters... 1 WILL FALL & 1 Will return

 

Source or it didn't happen.

 

 

Its from one of the commentries when 8th first launched, so to be fair GW could have (and most likely have) changed their minds... 


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I highly doubt that GW would release a primarch before FW does. I don't have the White Dwarf that had them I but I think some fraters mentioned that GW took insperation from FW's models, if I'm wrong feel free to correct me.


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With Luther being freed from the Rock, could it not be possible that he now heads a Fallen Angels force and claims the title of the "Lion" as being rightfully his? He could be running around causing all kinds of chaos! 


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With Luther being freed from the Rock, could it not be possible that he now heads a Fallen Angels force and claims the title of the "Lion" as being rightfully his? He could be running around causing all kinds of chaos! 

 

There is definite scope for this with Luthers escape.  The Lion however is a name not a title, Luther could attempt to claim he is the Lion but unless he's fully gone to chaos and they change his body, he's just more or less normal human size and so wouldn't fool anyone.


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I highly doubt that GW would release a primarch before FW does. I don't have the White Dwarf that had them I but I think some fraters mentioned that GW took insperation from FW's models, if I'm wrong feel free to correct me.

Not that I believe a rumour from BOLS involving a Primarch in a boxed set for a second, but FW Magnus came after GW Magnus. Although that's a Daemon Primarch, so the situation is a bit different.


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Step 1: Create the usual rumor clickbait

Step 2: Include box sets. And primarchs. Everyone loves primarchs. Especially in box sets.

Step 3: Throw in rumors about DA/Cypher, to trigger fan wars. DA are mysterious anyway, so anything could happen, and both sides of the discussion will escalate.

Step 4: Profit (Clicks)

 

I still think we should ban text-based rumours, regardless of the source. BoLS/Natfka/SpikeyBits and others are just pot-stirrers at the end of the day.

While I agree that BolS and SpikeyBitz just throw out unrealistic clickbait like this all day long, there are indeed text-based rumors with a reliable source. You can count their number on one hand, but nonetheless.


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While I agree that BolS and SpikeyBitz just throw out unrealistic clickbait like this all day long, there are indeed text-based rumors with a reliable source. You can count their number on one hand, but nonetheless.

We did get text-based rumours around summer last year that we'd see Abaddon and CSM "next spring", and that was absolutely correct, so there's that. The trouble with sites like BOLS is that they take rumours from everywhere besides fabricating their own, so while there may be a nugget of truth in there every now and then, they're really hard to distinguish from the rest.


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=][= Stick to the topic at hand please, folks. Extended discussion about the validity of text-based rumours and/or the sites/individuals that publish them does not belong here. =][=

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If its DA or Sisters i will get it, but they have never done Imperial vs Imperial, so why would they now?

It would have to be accompanied with black library releases, or atleast a new book like Burning of Prospero.
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The Lion won't go traitor because he's one of the most hyped up Loyalist Space Marine models to come. That means more £££ than if they released him for Chaos.

 

Luther getting his own model is believable, but not in a boxset. 


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This is essentially just stolen from the conversations we were having in the theory crafting thread.

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