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Dice boxes, the new fad.


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My FLGS had seen a surge in players using dice rolling boxes. Little wooden trays you roll your dice into. Nothing wrong with them, except when the sides are 2-3" tall and you can't see the dice rolls from across the table. It makes my paranoia flare up.

 

Anyhow, is this a worldwide new fad or just local to me?

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Never heard of it other than from youtube. It's easier to film dice rolls which I agree and support. I do not support it if you can't see the freaking dice rolls that your opponent is rolling...if I would have to walk over for each and every dice roll that my opponent makes because his box is to large I wouldn't even bother playing with them.

 

Krash

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I can see the idea behind them, this new edition of 40k seems to involve ludicrous amounts of dice rolling and it must be good to stop scattering them all across the table, getting stuck in/under/on terrain. but I would imagine, if I was to get one, I'd put it somewhere the opponent can see any results or even use it themselves. 

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I just got a low sided leather tray that has a felt liner for rolling dice in (was actually a nice hobby supportive gift) - the sides are only about half an inch to maybe 3/4ths inch high. But it’s great for letting you roll dice almost anywhere without them scattering around, or knocking other things down, so I definitely see the appeal.

 

Any time you can’t see an opponent’s roll, the opponent should not touch the dice until you can get over to see them. The tray/box should be put in the middle of the table where both players can either see or have equal difficulty seeing, that’s really only fair.

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If you cant see the result of a roll then its a failure or re-roll.....

I guess it really depends on where you are playing? I mean, if your playing at a tournament, sure, but if it's casual, I trust people to self report. If your cheating in a tournament that's one thing, but cheating in someone's basement is another, I guess.

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I use diceboxes almost every time i play 40K. In competitive gaming you just place it so everyone can see the dice.

 

I prefer the diceboxes because people still have a habit to miss the table completely with their rolls...

 

One of our RPG GMs  has as a rule that if an attackroll miss the table the attack misses.

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Yea I use one and I make sure my opponent is able to see each time. I don't like dice everywhere on my nicely painted table bouncing around my nicely painted models. After a few times I usually get waved off in a "just go" way.

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I having been using a dice box in every game for roughly 3 years now. I try to place it where my opponent can see my rolls and if I see that they are having trouble seeing any dice I will push them into view (intentionally showing my hand movement so they can see I am not flipping the dice.) I also tend to do all my rerolls right next to the box (closer to my opponent) so they can see that without issue. I have not had any trouble so far (or at least none has been voiced.)

 

I prefer the dice box because it keeps the dice together and doesn't knock over models etc. This helps speed the game along and keeps models safe. Also wound marker dice never get mixed in with rolls this way.

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I've used box lids for years for dice rolling, it's mainly so they don't go flying off every which way, knocking over stuff. Decently balanced sets of dice cost money, and they don't 'wander off' so much at the end of the game. Given they bounce off the sides somewhat, it also helps randomise rolls better than a short roll on the table top. I keep meaning to get a proper folding dice tray, just never got round to it. Usual height is an inch or so, same as most pre-made trays.

 

Obviously the rolls should be visible to the opponent (and before you pick up re-rolls), that's just good manners - I usually take out the fails, leaving passes visible for rerolls. And just like if your opponent is rolling dice behind scenery or scooping them up too fast to see, you're well within your rights to ask that they roll where you can see - I certainly wouldn't hesitate to move or ditch the box if it was causing a problem. 3 inches though, blimey, that's a tall tray.

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If you cant see the result of a roll then its a failure or re-roll.....

I guess it really depends on where you are playing? I mean, if your playing at a tournament, sure, but if it's casual, I trust people to self report. If your cheating in a tournament that's one thing, but cheating in someone's basement is another, I guess.

  

 

If you cant see the result of a roll then its a failure or re-roll.....

Sure, if both people agreed to that before hand. Otherwise you are making assumptions for other people that might not play they way you do.

 

Yeah should have finished that post before I hit reply :p

 

I guess what I was trying to say is if you are worried about not seeing the die than you put a house rule in saying either to see the results or they are a failure/ need re rolling

Personally I don’t have a die rolling box, some times I wish I did though...

:p

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I don’t think I will ever find a better dice rolling box than my old trusty 2nd Edition 40K starter box was - right up until the edge tore and you could basically toss dice right through it. It had a good life!

 

(Ah nostalgia - how you make us forget all the :cuss there was “back then” :lol: )

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At home I use whatever box I have handy. If I'm out at a tournament or something I typically use the Sterilyte container I transported my army in.

 

It's clear plastic, so complaints about not being able to see the results should be nonexistent.

 

If I don't use one I'll be spending more time chasing dice than playing.

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Yeah I use a box to roll into as well. Initially because the place I play at had a house rule that said if the die touched the floor, the roll is a failure (this rule eventually made it to my own house, because I like it).

 

But nowadays it's nice to not have to hunt dice that managed to get under terrain or between a model's legs.

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My local GW has a really good meta about this. Last few times I’ve played, someone (usually not me, unfortunately—I should get one) has a dice box, and we share and everything goes so much smoother. I’m not dropping dice nearly as much anymore (not that it stops anyone from going “Hey Lenoch—you dropped something.” Me: “ah, screw you :P”)
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Perfect for youtube videos if you do batreps or D&D sessions, as for general use then I say no, dice on table. oIf I play someone using them then leave the dice until I see the results. Touching dice before I see the results is cheating. 

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My first game used the original dice box (starter box upside down) and I have just always done it that way. However we have it in the same place and same dice so we can both just walk to the dice box (at most what 6 feet away so 3 steps?) abd see the other person role.

 

It makes it easier as you aren't rolling on the board, dice aren't going everywhere, and you aren't hitting models. Some people love to just throw them.

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I like dice boxes but there's usually no room for a properly sized one on our tables. If you have big enough tables or play without dense terrain then it definitely beats having dice playing bowling with miniatures and having to pick up dice between miniatures and terrain (or from the floor). Just give your opponent the time to take a look at the results if they really want to.

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We have 2 at my mates house where we play. Usually there is several people there at once and someone looks over the rolling players shoulder anyways, but I also trust my mates to not cheat on me.

I also prefer it to dice scattering all over the table.

 

What are people thoughts on dice Towers?

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