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Games Workshop - Contrast and Paint?


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Was looking at migsula's Instagram and he has an incredible death guard thing going on with the paints.

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Using some close ups of this display at warhammer fest I see the following:

 

 

2nd shelf:

Talassar blue
Ultramarines blue
Leviadon blue
Aethermatic blue
Akhelian green
Terradon turquoise
Plaguebearer flesh
Militarum green
Creed camo
 

And the two primers are Wraithbone (marine on left of a pot) and Grey Seer (marine on right of a pot), also available in separate base coat pots, and Contrast medium for mixing.

 

Thank you!  This is exactly what I was hoping to confirm.  Now I can be sure I'll need Leviadon Blue for my Crimson Fists and Creed Camo for my Raptors (as I suspected).  I could use a better close up of both, though, to see if I prefer the look over Wraithbone or Grey Seer.


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Interesting video from Pete the Wargamer: https://youtu.be/9V7Imu5fxZI

The weathering effects look very interesting.


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Apparently UK GW stores arent getting any extra rack space for Contrast paints so some things are going to be webstore only

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Apparently UK GW stores arent getting any extra rack space for Contrast paints so some things are going to be webstore only

Maybe in GW stores, resellers can order these and apply their price cuts normally. It's not a Mail Order situation.



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Having watched Pete the Wargamer's video on experimenting with them, I'm really impressed.

 

The zenithal primed miniature looked really, really nice. I'd never believe it was painted in 30 minutes, and the overall finish was borderline professional in quality IMO- except without that obnoxiously over-airbrushed, rather artificial style you see in a lot of "professional" paintjobs. It's certainly leagues above regular "tabletop quality/battle ready".

 

What really, really got me excited though was the Ridgerunner he painted with the stuff. I can see them being useful as a quicker-drying, easier to use and far less bad smelling alternative to oil washes, and for weathering/panel-lining purposes I can see them being useful for everything from high-end painting to scale modelling. I'm sure the slow drying nature of oils means they have some inherent advantages over Contrast for certain purposes (blending etc) and I doubt that these new paints will ever replace them for a lot of people, but as a tool in the arsenal I think they're going to be really quite useful even for highly experienced painters.

 

So in summary, for real, as soon as these become available I'm gonna buy every single one. Well, in theory anyway, depends how much a complete set costs. biggrin.png But honestly my one problem with them is that I wish I could go back in time with a set of these, as they'd have made my Tyranid army practically paint itself (compared to the monstrously complex scheme I settled on with three stage highlighting on every single part of every single miniature...All those Gaunts...*sobs*).

 

My single, solitary concern with these is I hope they work well enough over primers that aren't Wraithbone or Grey Seer, simply because my hatred of rattle cans and copious amount of inhaled lacquer fumes affecting my sanity love of Mr. Hobby's alcohol based airbrush primers means I'm unlikely to use the "proper" primers any time soon. Though I will admit that GW sprays are some of the only ones I've ever had any luck with, and they're doing the primers in pots too, so assuming they play nice through an airbrush it might not be a massive problem anyway. I just hope they work better than Vallejo's """""primer"""""...

 

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Rumours of pricing from Spikey bits:

The retail price for Contrast will be $7.80 USD, with their accompanying Grey Seer, and Wraithbone 12ml base color pots $4.55 each.

There will also be an add-on of around 15 new base paints to the existing line for use with the Contrast paints as well. These will also be $4.55 as well.


Those $4.55 pots in other world currencies:

CAD: $5.40
GBP: £2.75
EUR: 3,60€
AUD: $6.40

And the $7.80 ones around the world:

CAD: $9.40
GBP: £4.75
EUR: 6,30€
AUD: $11.50

TL;DR:

Contrast will cost the same as a pot of texture paint, while the two primer pots and a handful of new layer paints will be releasing at the same price as most other layer paints.


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Contrast will cost the same as a pot of texture paint, 

 

That's going to be a Yikes from me.


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I have a simple question about this Contrast paint thing; I have watched the Contrast Paint tutorial where they paint an Ultramarine with Contrast paints.

 

And it looks like ASS.

 

It's a blotchy mess that looks worse than my 3 year old can achieve with normal paint.

 

Why the hell did they make a video like this?  If this paint is supposed to help achieve quick and decent results (and apparently it actually can) how the hell did they manage to make it look so BAD?

 

I mean look at this: https://citadelcolou...1/6038130494001

 

What?  Seriously?  I'm supposed to want to end up with figures that look like this?


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So ~£4 a pot from FIGS. Bit more than I'd hoped given they're between shade and base pot in size, so unless there's a discount 'entire range' box at launch, I'll just pick up 6 or so to start with. (for flesh, wood, leather, bone, black and aethermatic for plasma). Demos over airbrushed primer work fine for smoothness, so I'll probably just get the wraithbone base pot and some medium - I think ulthuan grey or italeri flat gull grey will sub in nicely for the light grey colour for zenithal purposes.

 

As an aside; one thing I do notice with the launch of Contrast is how much painting expectations for novices have advanced in the last 30 years compared to my first Blood Angels Orange drybrushed RTB01 beakies with goblin green bases. I might see if I can track down the box they're hiding in and redo a couple with Contrast just so I can do a side-by-side!


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As somebody who doesn't really enjoy painting, but enjoys having painted armies, Contrast has the potential to make a pretty big difference to me and certainly open up some armies that I've not bothered with before because I couldn't face painting them.

 

Hopefully they'll have some available to try out at the UK Games Expo this weekend so I can see for myself how they work.


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So ~£4 a pot from FIGS. Bit more than I'd hoped given they're between shade and base pot in size, so unless there's a discount 'entire range' box at launch, I'll just pick up 6 or so to start with. (for flesh, wood, leather, bone, black and aethermatic for plasma). Demos over airbrushed primer work fine for smoothness, so I'll probably just get the wraithbone base pot and some medium - I think ulthuan grey or italeri flat gull grey will sub in nicely for the light grey colour for zenithal purposes.

As an aside; one thing I do notice with the launch of Contrast is how much painting expectations for novices have advanced in the last 30 years compared to my first Blood Angels Orange drybrushed RTB01 beakies with goblin green bases. I might see if I can track down the box they're hiding in and redo a couple with Contrast just so I can do a side-by-side!


I think that is due to the amount of information available to novice painters. Not only do we have YouTybe and pictorial guides on the internet, a lot of which is officially produced by GW, but there are in print painting guides that are four times? as thick as 2nd end codexes. Also we are spoiled when it comes to paint and painting supplies. Worth noting also that the expectations placed on novice painters is self imposed to a very large extent.
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I do find it hilarious that some people were saying the size of newer marine stuff looks great next to regular humans like Cadians, and then GW upsized the humans so they are the same height as marines again :lol: :lol: :lol:


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As somebody who doesn't really enjoy painting, but enjoys having painted armies, Contrast has the potential to make a pretty big difference to me and certainly open up some armies that I've not bothered with before because I couldn't face painting them.

Hopefully they'll have some available to try out at the UK Games Expo this weekend so I can see for myself how they work.


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As somebody who doesn't really enjoy painting, but enjoys having painted armies, Contrast has the potential to make a pretty big difference to me and certainly open up some armies that I've not bothered with before because I couldn't face painting them.

Hopefully they'll have some available to try out at the UK Games Expo this weekend so I can see for myself how they work.


For the first time in my life I’m wondering if I could handle orks and Tyranid.

 

 

This was my thinking. Always wanted a nids horde army but never wanted to paint it. Looking like this is now much more of a possibility at some point.


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There's another video up as of yesterday focusing on metallics. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=i1zSQdAnqoM

 

Some neat results.


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There's another video up as of yesterday focusing on metallics. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=i1zSQdAnqoM

 

Some neat results.

The Snakebite Leather over Leadbelcher is fantastic as a base for bronze.



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It's becoming clear that in the hands of the experienced painter the Contrast paints are another tool in the tool-chest which is great.

I still also think that in the hands of someone who has no painting ability or experience, or cares little for the paint quality of his/her army, this will create better results than the lowest quality paint jobs out there.
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There's another video up as of yesterday focusing on metallics. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=i1zSQdAnqoM

 

Some neat results.

Aaaand my Alpha Legion color is set. biggrin.png


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I have a simple question about this Contrast paint thing; I have watched the Contrast Paint tutorial where they paint an Ultramarine with Contrast paints.

 

And it looks like ASS.

 

It's a blotchy mess that looks worse than my 3 year old can achieve with normal paint.

 

Why the hell did they make a video like this?  If this paint is supposed to help achieve quick and decent results (and apparently it actually can) how the hell did they manage to make it look so BAD?

 

What?  Seriously?  I'm supposed to want to end up with figures that look like this?

 

I totally agree.  I think they focused so much on how "quickly" they could do it that they forgot that the result is what's going to really convince people.

I could half-ass an Ultramarine just as well, just as quickly, with regular paints.

 

I don't think it reflects upon the product itself, but the quality of the video is well below the expectations GW has set.


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My speculation on the GW models and videos not being perfect:

by showing straight from the pot to the model there can be no misleading of customers or confusion to what you’ll get. It sets a good standard for what new customers and those of us who don’t paint as often can achieve with a minimal time investment.

Same with the completed models. Here’s what the results will be if you one thick coat it. If they used layering and edge highlights on the display models it would be very misleading to customers.

Now that we’re getting videos from higher end painters I think we’re truly getting the complete picture for contrast. With a quick one coat method you’ll get table top standard models. Take some time and work in additional techniques and you’ll get a higher standard model.

I’m really liking what we’ve seen so far. Pricing isn’t really a surprise, and means it’ll be probably a buy as you use rather then buy the whole set for me.

It’s really making me want to pull the trigger on starting a khorne daemons army.... maybe after ETL gets me through my DeathWatch.
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There's another video up as of yesterday focusing on metallics.



Some neat results.


I really like that deep metallic black. I think I'll try that out on a couple upcoming Kill Team Deathwatch figures I kitbashed.

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My speculation on the GW models and videos not being perfect:

by showing straight from the pot to the model there can be no misleading of customers or confusion to what you’ll get. It sets a good standard for what new customers and those of us who don’t paint as often can achieve with a minimal time investment.

Same with the completed models. Here’s what the results will be if you one thick coat it. If they used layering and edge highlights on the display models it would be very misleading to customers.

 

I'm not saying they should have done anything else, but the guy applied the most uneven, sloppy coat and it's not a good way to sell a product.  He could have just as easily taken a little more care in applying it and shown the impressive results that can be had with a little bit of patience.


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My speculation on the GW models and videos not being perfect:

by showing straight from the pot to the model there can be no misleading of customers or confusion to what you’ll get. It sets a good standard for what new customers and those of us who don’t paint as often can achieve with a minimal time investment.

Same with the completed models. Here’s what the results will be if you one thick coat it. If they used layering and edge highlights on the display models it would be very misleading to customers.

 

I'm not saying they should have done anything else, but the guy applied the most uneven, sloppy coat and it's not a good way to sell a product.  He could have just as easily taken a little more care in applying it and shown the impressive results that can be had with a little bit of patience.

OTOH, it says outright that even if you half-ass it or have two left hands, you can still get your models PAINTED. And that's huge.


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