Vanguard as Allies

[Gaz1858]

Hi all,

 

I run Admech and I am planning a small Patrol Det of one Infiltrator squad and a Libby.

 

Admech struggle against units dropping in and charging so the Infiltrators would assist with this. They stop Da Jump, GSC appearing and everything is that correct?

 

The Libby I was planning on running with the Tome of Malcador, Null Zone, Tenebrous Curse and Mind Raid. He may also be the warlord and was gonna use Adept of the codex.

 

For a small Patrol am I using the right Chapter (went for CP regeneration) and are those the best powers for an all comers list?

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

Brilliant. /thumbs up

[Lemondish]

Hi all,

 

I run Admech and I am planning a small Patrol Det of one Infiltrator squad and a Libby.

 

Admech struggle against units dropping in and charging so the Infiltrators would assist with this. They stop Da Jump, GSC appearing and everything is that correct?

 

The Libby I was planning on running with the Tome of Malcador, Null Zone, Tenebrous Curse and Mind Raid. He may also be the warlord and was gonna use Adept of the codex.

 

For a small Patrol am I using the right Chapter (went for CP regeneration) and are those the best powers for an all comers list?

If you're going with the Librarian as the warlord, be first warned that this is a little risky. But second, consider the Phobos warlord trait Shoot and Fade. Null Zone is a difficult power to get off reliably, and its short range makes it really risky on positioning. Shoot and Fade not only gives you an escape route, but it also lets you reposition the Null bubble midway through your shooting phase if you want.

[Gaz1858]

 

Hi all,

 

I run Admech and I am planning a small Patrol Det of one Infiltrator squad and a Libby.

 

Admech struggle against units dropping in and charging so the Infiltrators would assist with this. They stop Da Jump, GSC appearing and everything is that correct?

 

The Libby I was planning on running with the Tome of Malcador, Null Zone, Tenebrous Curse and Mind Raid. He may also be the warlord and was gonna use Adept of the codex.

 

For a small Patrol am I using the right Chapter (went for CP regeneration) and are those the best powers for an all comers list?

If you're going with the Librarian as the warlord, be first warned that this is a little risky. But second, consider the Phobos warlord trait Shoot and Fade. Null Zone is a difficult power to get off reliably, and its short range makes it really risky on positioning. Shoot and Fade not only gives you an escape route, but it also lets you reposition the Null bubble midway through your shooting phase if you want.

Nice tactic i like that

[Ishagu]

I don't rate Null Zone either. It requires you to put your psyker in a dangerous position and there is no guarantee you'll be able to cast it, even with re rolls of one dice.

[Lemondish]

I don't rate Null Zone either. It requires you to put your psyker in a dangerous position and there is no guarantee you'll be able to cast it, even with re rolls of one dice.

Sure, but it is way more fun when it works, plus thanks to shoot and fade you end up being more about to respond if it doesn't go off.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

It’s way better than Death Hex for a Librarian versus a sorcerer. Of course Death Hex is quite reliable for kSons though as Null Zone is reliable for Ultramarines.

[Gaz1858]

Should I be taking a different relic then if Null Zone isnt seen as being too good?

[Ishagu]

Should I be taking a different relic then if Null Zone isnt seen as being too good?

You can take Might of Heroes instead. It makes the Librarian much better in combat.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

It’s also great for say Captains built for melee and T7/8 chassis.

 

Should I be taking a different relic then if Null Zone isnt seen as being too good?

You can take Might of Heroes instead. It makes the Librarian much better in combat.

Do you really want a Librarian in melee?

[Ishagu]

It's a free power. No need to use it but there might be a moment where 6 Str5 D3 damage attacks might come in useful.

[Lemondish]

There's also the option of not giving the Librarian a relic and instead tossing it on someone else.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

Libbies tend to be very squishy so I’d be careful what I charge with them.

[robofish7591]

I would rather use might of heroes on a contemptor or ironclad dreadnought, or even on a land raider or repulsor for the extra toughness.  In a pinch the librarian can cast it on himself, but there are probably better targets for the buff.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

It’s also great on Guilliman.