HH Space wolves question

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

Greetings Brothers and Sisters of the Fang.

 

I am in the planning phase of a crazy undertaking for some 30k fun. Basically half diorama half 2 playable 30k armies, Space Wolves verses Thousand Sons.

 

As i have spent little time with the 30k rules I have hit a curious sticking point in developing my space wolves side of the army. In the Space Wolves army selection section it states:

 

"The Space Wolves Detachment must fulfil their compulsory HQ choice with either a Praetor, Centurion (representing a Wolf Lord or Claw

Leader respectively) or Unique character with the Legions Astartes (Space Wolves) rule. Other HQ choices or Consul types may not be selected

as compulsory HQ choices in this detachment."

 

Now for some reason Leman Russ dies not seem to meet these criteria as he does not have the Wolf Lord/Claw Leader rule. And he does not have legion astartes Space Wolves. (Why he has neither of these things I do not understand)

 

So the the question is how do I take promarchs chosen with space wolves?

[Dantay VI]

Leman Russ is a Lord of War choice.

 

You could run the Pride of the Legion Rite of War. This is in the legion red book, not book 7 as it is a generic RoW.

 

This makes your primarch the War Lord and allows you to use Elites as troops ( varagyr, legion terminators veterans etc) Although Grey Slayers are damn good as normal troops go.

 

Basically Logan wing but with Russ as the boss.

Edited May 22, 2019 by Dantay VI

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

Primarch chosen moves primarchs to HQ and that is the scenario I am asking about.

 

From the Primarchs Chosen RoW effects:

 

Lord and Master: When taken in this detachment, a Primarch is counted as a HQchoiceinsteadof a Lords of War choice, and must be both the detachment’s compulsory HQchoiceandthearmy’s Warlord. When using this Rite of War, a Primarch may be taken in any size of army

Edited May 22, 2019 by jbickb

[MegaVolt87]

Did they fix the bannana fur on the termi's and the upside down bolt pistols etc on the FW SW stuff? 

[PeteySödes]

Did they fix the bannana fur on the termi's and the upside down bolt pistols etc on the FW SW stuff?

The Deathsworn kit is miles better yes. Hvarl is maybe a bit contentious still.

[Dantay VI]

Nope still bananas furred on Varagyr & upside down bolters on grey slayers.

 

Deathsworn kits are phenomenal and Hvarl is pretty good. Main gripe is missing grenade launcher

 

 

Jbickb. The RoW takes precedence therefore Russ does not need these rules. Same as you can use Elites as troops even though our only compulsory troop is grey slayer.

 

Might be worth checking the FAQ. I believe Russ armour got nerfed slightly as did Magnus.

Edited May 23, 2019 by Dantay VI

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

Ok cool. I just wasn't sure about which takes precedence and Battle scribe doesn't validate it properly so I thought I'd ask.

 

As to banana fur that will be a part of this project lol. Gunna have to scrape that off and GS my own.

 

Thanks for the rules heads up. I have been using the FAQ. Looks like the nerf is slight and this is more of a collection army than competitive. Though I do want to be sure its playable.

[Dantay VI]

The way the rules were originally written, the lists we could use were very restrictive, bit I think a lot of those restrictions have been lifted.

 

Do not forget that TH/SS is not a thing in HH unless you. Are Salamanders or Imperial Fists

 

Best person I can think of would be Jarl Kieran Cold-hearted about rules and Rites of War

Edited May 23, 2019 by Dantay VI

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

Yeah I was sad when I realized no thss as that is my favorite terminator loadout

[Dantay VI]

And no assault cannons.

Do get reaper auto cannons though. I use mine as assault cannons in 40k