Jump to content

Welcome to The Bolter and Chainsword
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

What is with bolt pistols?

Bits

  • Please log in to reply
34 replies to this topic

#26
D3L

D3L

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 707 posts
  • Location:Lamma Island
  • Faction: I, IX, XIV, XVII

The scale of some guns is hilarious. I've got a combi-melta which is bigger then the marines torso and legs

Nothing in 40k is in 'scale', remember that young padawan, and all your misgivings will go away



#27
Quantum

Quantum

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,022 posts
  • Location:Ulpia Noviomagus Batavorum
  • Faction: Forge World Fermya

 

No lore reason, it's just consequence of a generla scale problem or rather lackof "internal" scale in marines models (any). I wouldn't look much into it and would never try to justify it because it cannot be justifed. Besides, bolt pistols on models are just ridiculously gigantic - as long as marines thigh and almost as wide rolleyesclean.gif Generally marine models are one of the worst designs ever when it comes to proportions and weapon size. Primaris too unfortunately. Pity that GW with all their resources just won't do astartes justice.


It's in heroic scale -- when someone's using a weapon, it's supposed to be big and intimidating and a focus. When it's sheathed, it's not the focus, so it doesn't get exaggerated.

 

 

Indeed. I once painted a model of a real-life tank. The machine gun on the turret that I know to be big, powerful and utterly devastating looked pitifully insignificant compared to the bulk of the tank.

 

That being said, I generally feel that Citadel Models look better with a bit more realistic proportions.


"The Nova Terra Interregnum has been remembered unfairly by those few who remember it at all. True, many malcontents, provocateurs and petty lordlings flocked to its banner when it seceded. But its attempts to contain the aggressive expansion of the Ecclesiarchy were born from an honest desire to uphold those values at the hart of the Great Crusade. It is ironic that the last gasp of the Emperor's true vision was finally throttled at the hands of those who fought in His divine name, on the planet that once reminded our Lord of 'Urf, long ago...'"
                        - Archivist & Historian Vedek Parsen, pilloried, emasculated, hung, drawn, crucified, quartered, burnt and disintegrated for heresy extremus. Probably in that order.

gallery_48988_15465_39461.pnggallery_48988_15465_5172.pnggallery_48988_15465_10130.png


#28
Trevak Dal

Trevak Dal

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 4,337 posts
  • Location:Tennessee
  • Faction: Black Legion (Night Blades)




There is no issues with the holstered pistols on the Mk III kit. The mag is accounted for by the holster it looks right.


The Mk III sprue has holstered bolt pistols with and without magazines which would seem to imply that most holstered bolt pistols aren't loaded.

P4yITpV.png?2

Or they might have lower capacity magazines?

"Our Turn" - Centurion Khârn.

 


#29
Fulkes

Fulkes

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 4,073 posts
  • Location:Holy Terra
  • Faction: Templars, Sisters, Chaos

I've always assumed they just don't carry loaded side arms with them. Given the relative "vigor" with which marines move (smashing through cover, walls, bounding across gaps), I just run with the idea that they don't bother to load their weapons until they are in their hands, as accidental discharges could be problematic for them. I know something as simple as a safety on their firearm could solve that (and bolters/bolt pistols do have them in fluff), maybe they have weapons discipline so drilled into their heads that they want zero possibility of an accident. Just guessing/trying to fluff justify why they wouldn't carry their sidearms loaded.

The fluff also has them maglocking stuff onto their armour instead of holstering them, so it's neither really here nor there I guess.


  • Trevak Dal likes this

 My company inform me that their new primaris brother just don't fit in the safety harnesses. And the Chaplain won't let us ride unless we buckle up.


#30
Zephaniah Adriyen

Zephaniah Adriyen

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,527 posts
  • Location:America

 

I've always assumed they just don't carry loaded side arms with them. Given the relative "vigor" with which marines move (smashing through cover, walls, bounding across gaps), I just run with the idea that they don't bother to load their weapons until they are in their hands, as accidental discharges could be problematic for them. I know something as simple as a safety on their firearm could solve that (and bolters/bolt pistols do have them in fluff), maybe they have weapons discipline so drilled into their heads that they want zero possibility of an accident. Just guessing/trying to fluff justify why they wouldn't carry their sidearms loaded.

The fluff also has them maglocking stuff onto their armour instead of holstering them, so it's neither really here nor there I guess.

 

 

So then you can just take a loose weapon and glue it onto a Space Marine's armor and it's entirely fluff-valid?


"All power demands sacrifice and pain. The universe rewards those willing to spill their life's blood for the promise of power." - Sindri Myr

gallery_48988_15808_1006.pnggallery_48988_15465_989.pnggallery_48988_15465_2505.pnggallery_26154_15777_2719.pnggallery_30308_9518_3596.jpggallery_48988_16308_29741.pngsml_gallery_48988_16308_8698.pnggallery_48988_16308_20607.png

"There is no meaning, no purpose. We murder, we kill. It is mindless savagery, this UNIVERSE is mindless!" - Azariah Kyras

 


#31
Fulkes

Fulkes

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 4,073 posts
  • Location:Holy Terra
  • Faction: Templars, Sisters, Chaos

 

 

I've always assumed they just don't carry loaded side arms with them. Given the relative "vigor" with which marines move (smashing through cover, walls, bounding across gaps), I just run with the idea that they don't bother to load their weapons until they are in their hands, as accidental discharges could be problematic for them. I know something as simple as a safety on their firearm could solve that (and bolters/bolt pistols do have them in fluff), maybe they have weapons discipline so drilled into their heads that they want zero possibility of an accident. Just guessing/trying to fluff justify why they wouldn't carry their sidearms loaded.

The fluff also has them maglocking stuff onto their armour instead of holstering them, so it's neither really here nor there I guess.

 

 

So then you can just take a loose weapon and glue it onto a Space Marine's armor and it's entirely fluff-valid?

 

Pretty much.


  • Oxydo likes this

 My company inform me that their new primaris brother just don't fit in the safety harnesses. And the Chaplain won't let us ride unless we buckle up.


#32
Magos Takatus

Magos Takatus

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 2,313 posts

It must be hilarious when fighting through a ruined urban environment and suddenly a draw full of cutlery flings itself over Brother Jakob's hindquarters. :P


  • Fulkes, Oxydo and Zephaniah Adriyen like this

Formerly known as Flame Boy since about 1999. Time for a change! smile.png

My Adeptus Mechanicus Ploghttp://www.bolterand...og-torburnides/

My Ork Ploghttp://www.bolterand...oys-orky-horde/

https://www.instagra.../magos_takatus/

gallery_48988_15465_6059.png


#33
Brother Adelard

Brother Adelard

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 2,725 posts
  • Faction: Black Templars



I've always assumed they just don't carry loaded side arms with them. Given the relative "vigor" with which marines move (smashing through cover, walls, bounding across gaps), I just run with the idea that they don't bother to load their weapons until they are in their hands, as accidental discharges could be problematic for them. I know something as simple as a safety on their firearm could solve that (and bolters/bolt pistols do have them in fluff), maybe they have weapons discipline so drilled into their heads that they want zero possibility of an accident. Just guessing/trying to fluff justify why they wouldn't carry their sidearms loaded.

The fluff also has them maglocking stuff onto their armour instead of holstering them, so it's neither really here nor there I guess.

So then you can just take a loose weapon and glue it onto a Space Marine's armor and it's entirely fluff-valid?

Yep, dig out all those really old bolt pistols with the attached grips!
  • Fulkes and Zephaniah Adriyen like this

O787td6.jpggallery_38474_6916_6036.jpg


#34
Panzer

Panzer

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 21,076 posts
  • Location:Germany
  • Faction: Order of Baal, Dal'yth Sept

I've always assumed they just don't carry loaded side arms with them. Given the relative "vigor" with which marines move (smashing through cover, walls, bounding across gaps), I just run with the idea that they don't bother to load their weapons until they are in their hands, as accidental discharges could be problematic for them. I know something as simple as a safety on their firearm could solve that (and bolters/bolt pistols do have them in fluff), maybe they have weapons discipline so drilled into their heads that they want zero possibility of an accident. Just guessing/trying to fluff justify why they wouldn't carry their sidearms loaded.

The fluff also has them maglocking stuff onto their armour instead of holstering them, so it's neither really here nor there I guess.
 
So then you can just take a loose weapon and glue it onto a Space Marine's armor and it's entirely fluff-valid?
Yeah I've been doing that since forever lol
  • Bryan Blaire, Zephaniah Adriyen and MegaVolt87 like this

gallery_62972_10568_7658.jpgbFk9acX.pnggallery_62972_14467_40478.pnggallery_62972_14467_3819.jpggallery_62972_10568_4118.jpg


#35
Trevak Dal

Trevak Dal

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 4,337 posts
  • Location:Tennessee
  • Faction: Black Legion (Night Blades)
Regarding the mag locking, that was why I loved the Halo 5 "Hunt the Truth" trailers (damn 343i forever for teasing John-117 Heresy and not delivering).

I still want to do a inspired version of that with Shadowsun and Farsight.

I've never done a diorama before, but there are two I feel I got to do.

Edited by Trevak Dal, 20 June 2019 - 07:33 AM.

  • Schlitzaf likes this

"Our Turn" - Centurion Khârn.

 






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Bits

1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users