Chaos Knight scheme choices

[Clingy]

Evening all!

 

So dreadblade icon, or infernal. Which flavour of chaotic stompy robots are you all leaning towards?

 

Also those that have been playing house malinax I have to say your house colours are nice. Whilst the black metal aesthetic of chaos knights is cool with all the spikes whips and chains....your house scheme is nice for being duel purpose in my eyes.

 

Anyone have any experiences of people eye rolling when they played imperial knights as renegades or renegade knights as imperial?

 

Would love stories and experiences. My knights are painted as Taranis but I get bored and often mix it up by trying different households depending on my mood. Do we foresee resistance in my Taranis bots rejecting the corpse emperor and embracing the dark side?

Edited July 12, 2019 by Clingy

[Mushkilla]

Infernal personally.

 

There's a third fluff option though. Houses that never became part of the imperium of man. That were always independent and were never brought into the emperor's fold.

 

As for teranis traitors, they are probably the most likely imperial house to have knights fall to chaos as their thrones don't imprint their minds with loyalty and feudal behavioural encoding. So in theory would be less resilient to corruption.

[Stray]

I'm with Mushy and inclined to go with Infernal. Mostly it's fluffy as Malinax are a Dark Mechanicus house, but I do think the rules have a slight edge too. Both are solid options though.

 

Iconoclasts appear to be described often as disillusioned loyalist Knights that have switched sides? From that perspective, I'd have no issue fluff wise with anyone running Knights in loyalist colours as Iconoclasts for sure. It's a little harder to justify as fluffy as Infernal from what I've seen, so maybe a quarter roll of one eye? - Ultimately they're your toys buddy, run em how you like - no one has the right to give you a hard time over it.

 

Having a Dreadblade in a lance of any type seems a no brainer really - there's no penalty to doing so in terms of losing the benefit of our faction rules, and the Dreadblade negatives can be largely side stepped. Generally I'd expect to always take one Knight as one.

Edited July 12, 2019 by Stray

[Nemerax]

Infernal. I love how the rules of Daemonic Surge are designed.

 

This is how Chaos should be like on their vehicles (FW did it right on Infernal Hunger).

The idea to activate a bonus and suffer wounds for it reminds on the old days where the EC could use combat drugs.

 

A daemon leeching a bit of your life force in exchange for power? Sounds amazingly corresponding to the fluff of 40k and fits the lore of my army well, because mutation and possession is seen as a gift.

 

Dreadblade rules are amazing and probably fit the narrative even better and Iconoclast is very strong on the stomping. Rules wise I think they break even. I just like the idea of harvesting the souls of my enemies to heal myself.

 

So I guess it is entirely up to you how you use it. People complained of not having Chaos Households, but I kinda see it that it sets us free. Otherwise I probably had to play Devine because of Slaanesh.

 

Since I am a tournament player, I have seen people play everything as everything. It is annoying for me to keep track off it, especially if they do not paint their armies or a somewhat close to proxying, BUT rules changes and I cannot and will not expect someone to repaint them each time. Go with what makes you happy.

I ran my CSM once as Red Corsair, despite them being clearly EC.

Edited July 12, 2019 by Nemerax

[DuskRaider]

I haven't really decided yet. Both Infernal and Iconoclast have some really cool options from what I've seen but I need to sit down with the book first.

 

Thematically (and I'm all about the theme and fluff) my Knights could go either way... some are heavily mutated while some are more dark tech-looking, though they are mainly geared for close range engagements.

 

I'm also really feeling the idea of adding a Dreadblade, either Undivided in origin or perhaps House Ærthegn and Khorne themed.

 

Oh, and obviously mine are House Makabius, to go with my Death Guard and overall Nurgle theme.

 

As far as pics, I'm just going to copy and paste what I posted up in the Mechanicum thread a few days ago.

 

 

And there's are the ones I'm currently working on for the ETL.

 

Edited July 12, 2019 by DuskRaider

[NiftyVT]

So how I plan to do it with my Malinax Knights is to use them however I want.   The couple Knights and War Dogs that I have finished so far are pretty clean corruption wise so I am going to story tell that away by saying that my clean ones are actually full up super evil automata so they do not physically show their corruption. So if you look in the cockpit there would be a mysterious black box pulsing with power, is it cybernetica in there or something much more evil (aka trapped deamon)? 

 

And this thread is useless without pics!

[Prot]

I'm going to paint mine in a scheme that let's me play with both house rules. I made the mistake with loyalists of painting Raven House early on and just to keep things fun I'd want to try something else but it was always confusing.  So this time I hope to have the option. (Honestly I don't think the average player is going to really have a problem with the looks of Chaos knights in either house being represented 'accurately'.)

 

That said I'm leaning Iconoclast.  The extra attack is just... fantastic. I like Warglaives and having that extra couple of sweeps would have been nice. They Strats just really appeal to me too. Plus I have mentioned elsewhere I'm working on a Tyrant and I think a very potent relic is always going to be the 4++ save Iconoclast strat which is the equivalent of having Rotate Ion Shields on for the game. 

 

Also the +1 attack and AP on stomp combined with the Strat to gain an attack every 10 kills has incredible potential. It doesn't specify  where the kills have to come from so that could be an amazing stomp session you roll into. 

 

Sticking with the Tyrant theme if I assess my opponent to have tremendous firepower, I can make sure they never wound me on a 1-2-3 roll of the dice.

 

I also like being able to assess if my opponent is vehicle heavy and have the option on a dakka Knight to re-roll 1's to wound.

 

Infernal is no slouch though. Great stuff too. 

[Stray]

I've mentioned this elsewhere but in terms of 'looks' (and this only really applies to the competitive players), the only thing I'd say to be forewarned about, is that some of ITC tournaments which will first be 'allowing' Chaos Knights, were placing restrictions on how they were modelled.

 

You supposedly have to either be using the actual new Chaos Knight kit, OR be running Knights that are converted to look the part.

 

Whether anything has changed or this will gain traction and be a thing, who knows. Worth keeping in mind though.

[happyslugger]

I've mentioned this elsewhere but in terms of 'looks' (and this only really applies to the competitive players), the only thing I'd say to be forewarned about, is that some of ITC tournaments which will first be 'allowing' Chaos Knights, were placing restrictions on how they were modelled.

 

You supposedly have to either be using the actual new Chaos Knight kit, OR be running Knights that are converted to look the part.

 

Whether anything has changed or this will gain traction and be a thing, who knows. Worth keeping in mind though.

Well given I like many others have 3 normal knights, a valiant and castellan and armigers already modelled...I won't be rushing out to replace them all with the new knight kit..I also think £90 is poor value considering it's got no carpace weapons...

 

I just wouldn't play in those tournaments lol

[Stray]

 

I've mentioned this elsewhere but in terms of 'looks' (and this only really applies to the competitive players), the only thing I'd say to be forewarned about, is that some of ITC tournaments which will first be 'allowing' Chaos Knights, were placing restrictions on how they were modelled.

 

You supposedly have to either be using the actual new Chaos Knight kit, OR be running Knights that are converted to look the part.

 

Whether anything has changed or this will gain traction and be a thing, who knows. Worth keeping in mind though.

Well given I like many others have 3 normal knights, a valiant and castellan and armigers already modelled...I won't be rushing out to replace them all with the new knight kit..I also think £90 is poor value considering it's got no carpace weapons...

 

I just wouldn't play in those tournaments lol

 

 

I'm hoping it's a one off by some badly informed and reactionary tournament organisers. It is somewhat asinine isn't it?

 

I think in a tournament it might be poor form to turn up with 3 Terryn Knights and say: 'Yup, these are Chaos Knights'. But I don't see the need for full conversions, just a paint scheme that doesn't cause any confusion.

 

GW insist on this for their events (if you're painted as say Ultramarines, you use Ultramarine rules) and it seems a reasonably sensible policy (if only for the sake of sanity) outside of casual games. It's not a bad rule of thumb to adopt across the tournament scene, which could maybe do with a little more consistency on things like this.

Edited July 13, 2019 by Stray

[NiftyVT]

I'm hoping it's a one off by some badly informed and reactionary tournament organisers. It is somewhat asinine isn't it?

 

I think in a tournament it might be poor form to turn up with 3 Terryn Knights and say: 'Yup, these are Chaos Knights'. But I don't see the need for full conversions, just a paint scheme that doesn't cause any confusion.

 

GW insist on this for their events (if you're painted as say Ultramarines, you use Ultramarine rules) and it seems a reasonably sensible policy (if only for the sake of sanity) outside of casual games. It's not a bad rule of thumb to adopt across the tournament scene, which could maybe do with a little more consistency on things like this.

 

Yeah, that sounds like a really silly ruling. So they are trying to say that I cannot use my House Malinax Knights because I didn't glue spikes to them?! Absolutly ridiculous.

 

Edit: I can't find a reference for the itc ruling. Anyone have a link?

Edited July 14, 2019 by NiftyVT

[Stray]

 

I'm hoping it's a one off by some badly informed and reactionary tournament organisers. It is somewhat asinine isn't it?

 

I think in a tournament it might be poor form to turn up with 3 Terryn Knights and say: 'Yup, these are Chaos Knights'. But I don't see the need for full conversions, just a paint scheme that doesn't cause any confusion.

 

GW insist on this for their events (if you're painted as say Ultramarines, you use Ultramarine rules) and it seems a reasonably sensible policy (if only for the sake of sanity) outside of casual games. It's not a bad rule of thumb to adopt across the tournament scene, which could maybe do with a little more consistency on things like this.

Yeah, that sounds like a really silly ruling. So they are trying to say that I cannot use my House Malinax Knights because I didn't glue spikes to them?! Absolutly ridiculous.

 

Edit: I can't find a reference for the itc ruling. Anyone have a link?

 

 

It wasn't for the whole of the ITC, but it was being put in place by the first couple of tournaments where Chaos Knights would be 'active' as I recall. Reese mentioned it on signals a week or so ago?

[Questor Traitoris]

Hello fellow Traitors, 

 

I have read the codex and the color scheme and background which intrigued me most is the black and green of House Vextirx. 

 

I think I will fully devote myself to this Infernal Questoris House. The color scheme seems easy enough to replicate for a newbie like myself and with most of the details and trim being simply gunmetal it looks like a nice project. 

 

So far I have the new Chaos Knight kit, the FW Chaos Kinght and two Helverines. As soon as it is practicable I will begin working on them. 

 

I really like the flexibility of an Infernal household. It looks like it will be a fun and a bit random army to play so I cant wait to get into some games with the new Chaos Knights. 

 

In terms of heraldry I find House Vextrix quite linear and this is exactly what I was looking for. 

 

Therefore House Vextrix it is. Duty is eternal!

[Excessus]

Colour schemes...my nemesis!

 

I can't decide the colours I wanna paint my knights in. No blues or greens since I run Alpha Legion. Maybe black and red quartered? Then again I want to do red detail lines like my heresy AL has so maybe not red either...

Edited July 15, 2019 by Excessus

[Thunder_god]

Hello fellow Traitors,

 

I have read the codex and the color scheme and background which intrigued me most is the black and green of House Vextirx.

 

I think I will fully devote myself to this Infernal Questoris House. The color scheme seems easy enough to replicate for a newbie like myself and with most of the details and trim being simply gunmetal it looks like a nice project.

 

So far I have the new Chaos Knight kit, the FW Chaos Kinght and two Helverines. As soon as it is practicable I will begin working on them.

 

I really like the flexibility of an Infernal household. It looks like it will be a fun and a bit random army to play so I cant wait to get into some games with the new Chaos Knights.

 

In terms of heraldry I find House Vextrix quite linear and this is exactly what I was looking for.

 

Therefore House Vextrix it is. Duty is eternal!

I’m liking this house close as well. My only hold up is not having transfers for it.

[Lightbox]

My custom household colours for when my knights were imperial are going to stay which are wraithbone (a nice creamy colour) and a light blue because who says all households need to suddenly have lots of black and dark colours when they fall from grace?  

 

Should make a nice juxtapose to some rusty spikes and blooded weapons. My household symbol was going to be a golden lion but I'm thinking of trying something different... especially because I'll need to source something I can easily get transfers for.

[Excessus]

I'm beginning to form a thought now about the colours...

 

Black and cream quartered, with bronze/gold-ish rims that I can have oxidation on, and rust and grime all over. :)