Daemonbanes Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 Hi all, Looking to build my first 30k BA list with Raldoron at the helm. He’s too good to pass up at smaller points values. Thinking of using the Master Tactician Warlord Trait as it’s fluffy but also means I can redeploy the Command Rhino or Ral & the Machine Killer Vets to sew confusion and hopefully dodge any of the enemies main artillery. As it’s 30k can I use the 7th edition warlord traits? Then I’d also consider the trait that rerolls all to hits of 1 for unit’s within 12inches. That way all those Angels Tears, Leviathan Melta and Machine Killer hits should put in real work on that first turn appearance. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2,498pts] ++ + HQ + Chaplain [135pts]: Artificer Armour, Blade of Perdition, Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack . Consul . . Chaplain: Power Axe Chapter Master Raldoron [180pts]: Artificer Armour Damocles Command Rhino [100pts] + Elites + Apothecarion Detachment [150pts] . Apothecary, Legion: None (Infantry, Power Armour), Power Armour . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade . Apothecary, Legion: Jump Pack, Power Armour . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade . Apothecary, Legion: None (Infantry, Power Armour), Power Armour . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade The Angel's Tears [290pts]: 7x Erelim, 7x Iliastus Pettern Assault Cannon with Suspensor Web, 7x Volkite Serpenta . Arch-Elelim: Artificer Armour, 2x Volkite Serpenta . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion [226pts]: 7x Bolt Pistol, 6x Chainsword, Combat Blade, 7x Combi-weapon: Meltagun, 7x Veteran Space Marines, Legion, Veteran Tactics: Machine Killers . Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Power Axe . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun + Troops + Assault Squad, Legion , Compulsory [280pts]: 14x Assault Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: 3x Power Axe . Assault Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainsword Assault Squad, Legion , Compulsory [280pts]: 14x Assault Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: 3x Power Axe . Assault Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Combat Blade . Standard Wargear . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainsword + Fast Attack + Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron, Legion [152pts] . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta, Searchlight, Twin-linked Cyclone missile launcher . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta, Searchlight, Twin-linked Cyclone missile launcher + Heavy Support + Land Raider Battle Squadron, Legion [250pts] . Land Raider Phobos: 2x Twin-linked Lascannon Sponsons, Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [455pts]: Dreadnought Drop Pod, Legion . Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Armoured Ceramite, Cyclonic Melta Lance, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, Iliastus Pattern Assault Cannon, Phosphex Discharger . . Leviathan Siege Claw + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: IX: Blood Angels, Loyalist Rite of War: The Day of Revelation + Use Playtest Rules + Use Playtest Rules: Playtest Rules On ++ Total: [2,498pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) Raldoron can only choose from the LA army list warlord traits table, not the ones in the BRB. I my humble opinion, there are better synergies than using him in an DoR list. Except for when he selects 'World Burner' maybe. Even then, DoR hardly has need of him. Machine Killer Vets and / or the Leviathan should be DS'ing in Anvillus / Dreadnought Pods. The Anvillus thus fulfills the requirements of DoR on the side. There's essentially two means of running DoR: 1. No ground presence, null deployment (like in an Orbital Assault list), high number of pods. 2. High AV ground presence to get a foot down and manipulate reserves (Damocles, Explorator Web, etc.) Your list seems to be a bit lost in between these two options. EDIT: And Battlescribe list seriously are a cause for eye-cancer ... Edited July 20, 2019 by Unknown Legionnaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonbanes Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Thanks for clearing up what traits Ral can pick from. Take what you’re saying with regards to how he synergises with DOR, just thought to make DOR super effective it’s good to take a Damocles, and taking Master Tactician with Ral means I can redeploy it out of LOS of the enemy but close enough to use its homing beacon for all my deep striking stuff. Good shout on the Anvillus and how it takes up the fast attack slot. Thanks. Still like Javelins, but it’s def going to make me reconsider using the land raider as a delivery option. For both the Levi and Anvillus to drop turn 1 I’d need a third drop pod right? Like a deathstorm? EDIT: point taken about BattleScribe. It’s my first time posting and to be honest I just did t want to procrastinate and forget to post my thoughts any longer haha. Will amend in future! Edited July 21, 2019 by Daemonbanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDizzle Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) Those assault marine sergeants really need power fists, least of all because those squads have no way of dealing with armour. Even other members of the squad already have power axes, so it doesn't really make sense for the sergeant to be carrying a chainsword. Also, that Chaplain's Blade of Perdition replaces the bolt pistol. The Blade of Perdition can already deal with AP2 as well so I'd give him a sword crozius (or even a mace) instead of an axe crozius. Edited July 29, 2019 by JDizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemonbanes Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 Lovely stuff, thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 Doesn't the warlord need to have a jump pack in DoR? Or do you just need one HQ with it...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 The compulsory HQ selection needs to be equipped with a jump pack, and the Chaplain can fill that role. Raldoron can still be the Warlord, since your Warlord doesn't have to be the compulsory HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 That's the one. Very odd imo but yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imren Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Since you're podding in the Leviathan, you should consider focusing it on close combat and run it with twin close combat weapons instead of one of each, so consider exchanging the melta lance to a siege drill. Even though you may not charge the turn it drops in, it can still shoot the ass. cannons and withstand ranged attacks with its very sturdy armour and its 4+ invulnerable save that turn and wreak havoc the next ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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