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My very first models, so any advice, even the blindingly obvious, is appreciated. I did go for "two thin coats," courtesy of five million memes about it, though I find it surprisingly easy to add too much water. I'm glad to have realized that painting these was surprisingly fun and relaxing.

 

Also learned: A Redemptor Dreadnought is a really big first project. I probably should've gone with my Reivers or Aggressors first.

 

As originally put together; I went with easy to build kits because, again, first project.

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Base coating with Abbadon Black for green areas.

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Corax White for the yellow areas, though it was bit concerning at first. Wasn't expecting the paint in the bottle to be grey and it has an inconsistent application.

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Brother-Sergeant Subaya, interred in Ira Mortuorum, is now mostly ready. Waaagh! Flesh and Averland Sunset for green and yellow bits respectively. 

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I plan on using a small brush for touching up areas where paint got in the wrong spot or I've missed bits tomorrow as well as starting on small details. I'm not sure how much of the Gatling gun should be painted grey as well.

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Off to a good start, don't sell yourself short for a first try. The base coat is looking good, yellow can be tricky.

 

Starting with a big model isn't so bad - it might take a bit more time than infantry but sometimes there's less small details to deal with.

 

Only tip I'd offer so far is to consider working inside out to minimize the amount of touching up you have to do. If you're going to do the shoulder sections under the armor plates in a metal color, for example, I'd do that next, along with any metal bits you may do on the legs.

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Hi,

 

Paintjob is good so far. Just Jeep Going.

But, you realise, that the legs are in the wrong direction? The knees are bending backwards ...

This would explain why it had a bad habit of falling off. I’ll see if I can fix it (a touch of glue having been added to address that), if not, I do like chicken walkers.

 

Edit:Iram Et Pullum no more.

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Redemptor Dread alongside an intercessor and Reiver squad in various stages of finishing (mostly as I was practicing/figuring out what worked best for me). I think I'll be using Rakarth Flesh (as trialed with the Reiver sergeant)  as the base coat as that seems to work best for the yellow and gives a slightly lighter shade of green.

 

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Reiver Sarge's skin color did not come out right at all. In the grim dark future of mankind, there is only jaundice!

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Spent today when I wasn't napping or being called into work working on the black based Reiver from earlier. I need to eventually go back and work on the bolter, but I like how he's turned out.

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Reivers have been finished up, touched up the one mostly done Intercessor. My initial plan had been to do the Intercessors before the Reivers, but I kinda chopped off push in bits of the Intercessor sergeant by accident when first doing it and it took me awhile to figure out how to get his arms on successfully. Unfortunately, I did that with glue prior to painting the helmet at his side, so it's gonna be a bit awkward to work on.

 

The Corax White that had been shipped to me turns out to have been mostly sludgified when I got it, which explains why I was having such a hard time and not happy with it earlier.

 

The Iron Ravens post today gave me a tiny twinge of depression quickly smothered by "Holy cow, how did they do all that? I must learn it all!" and some additional ideas for detail and whatnot. I expect I'll be going back over the models periodically over time just to add detail and bling and whatnot to them.

 

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Welcome to the hobby!

 

Not a bad start by any means, and you're doing things that many of us fail to do, actually complete a model, so kudos!

 

There are a couple of things that you can do to very easily improve the finish off your models:

 

On the modelling/assembly side, all plastic and resin models have mould lines from when they are cast - take a look at the horizontal bump running across that marine's head. If you rub the blade of your modelling knife along that line or use fine grit sandpaper/files to smooth it out they immediately look a lot more professional. It doesn't take too long to do either unless you get unlucky with a sprue.

 

On the painting side, just going back and checking what you've done. There's a bit of yellow on the wrist of the marine that could do with being tidied up  as with the silver on the chest.

Another thing that you can do to add a little bit of depth to your models is to run a wash over them, GamesWorkshop and most other paint brands have assorted washes or inks that would do that job quite nicely.

Once you've got all of this down and your painting is more accurate and you're comfortable with your technique, you can look at highlighting to just make parts of the model pop (This is a "nice to do" not a requirement by any means).

 

Finally, work out how to base your models - start simply with some sand and a small rock of cast off item from a sprue to bring it to life a little bit. This completes the model and you can start to think about theming your army - are they fighting in some winter tundra? Urban ruins? Desert etc. 

 

 

Massive wall of text aside, I think they're very solid for a fresh pair of hands and you will only get better :)

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I would avoid painting the feet yellow, you could do the helm, kneepads, or leg(s) yellow instead it would look much better. Different feet colour like that is just not a good look for marines in general, best not to do it. However the eye lenses are great for a first timer. Mine never looked that good when I started out. Keep painting, its just practice to get better. 

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Did a quick paint up of the Intercessor Sergeant to look at the idea of doing it up with green boots rather than the yellow, but tbh I think that the yellow feet looks better to my eye.

 

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Citadel Colour says to use agrax earthshade on the imperial fist yellow, but I never like how it comes out. I used seraphim sepia instead here and I think it's a bit better, but I might also just stick away from doing washes on the yellow, at least with the shoulder pads.

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Keep at it, you're showing progress already.

 

I think the comment about yellow feet stems from the fact that bright or contrasting colors will naturally draw the eye, and in general the face and upper torso is the intended focus - but it's your model so paint it the way you like.

 

As far as washes go, it's a matter of taste as well to an extent. Darker washes like Agrax provide a heavier artificial shadow and are probably more visible from further away, like the view you'll usually have while models are on the table. Some wash or a highlight is generally recommended to pick out details and avoid having the model look too flat.

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Some more work on that sergeant, though quite a bit more is obviously required as the various bits that have somehow escaped any paint whatsoever and the obvious mistakes indicate.

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My layering use is obviously quite the work in progress. The yellow isn't quite so harsh and bright in real life, I think that's an aspect of the lighting when I took the pictures.

 

I'm currently consumed by the question of whose bones he's carrying and why in the little leg reliquary.

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The sergeant is finished imo, though I might go back and fix his hair and some facial stuff.

 

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The other two intercessors are just detail work now, arms and backpacks attached to them all.

 

I've also started work on one of the aggressors.

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My plan is to paint them up as a squad of first company veterans. For the yellow, I used a couple light shades of Casandora Yellow on top of Yriel Yellow and Averland Sunset and I'm rather pleased with how it came out; it's a more subtle effect and doesn't give it the dirty look that the other shades have.

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Currently waiting on some paints and Primaris Lieutenant to ship from GW and trying to restrain myself from going out for yet more paints. I've run into a couple issues with sludgy paint and while being quite vigorous in shaking has salvaged most of them, the corax white might be better off being tossed (I can get a workable paint out of it, but it involves slushing around the base with the paint brush as deep as I can).

 

Some in progress pictures in the meanwhile:

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Everyone has arms!

 

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I went back and painted over the shaded Averland with Yriel Yellow, with the second layer being quite thin and a little dried out when I picked it up, so that it almost felt like I was dry brushing it on, and it came out quite well.

 

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Anger management session is in progress. I haven't actually glued the body to the legs yet, I'm waiting till I've gotten enough detail done on the legs to be happy with it because I don't feel I'll be able to get to it well beneath the cloak.

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For a first project it’s coming along nicely. One thing I would suggest is spray priming, it makes the pint bond better. And will prevent the areas where there isn’t any paint from happening.
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Agreed on the spray primer. I typically spray everything I paint, and the few times I decided to change a small bit at the last second and didn't bother spray-priming it), I pretty much always come to regret it because the paint wants to peel off in corners.

 

Otherwise the main advice I can give you is to simply be tidier. More time spent getting even coats, and making the paint go all over the surfaces you want it to, and avoiding the surfaces where you dont want it. This essentially means clean up. Breaking out paints you've already used to clean up where another paint's gone on by mistake. Over and over. Sometimes I find myself doing this (especially with highlights, but you can wait with those) too many times to count. But it always pays off to do this. It can really make or break a mini.

 

You could also look into not always assembling a miniature fully before painting it (School book example: not always gluing on the bolt rifle on a marine so it blocks you from reaching his chest)

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Been quite awhile since I posted in this topic despite painting a number of minis; mostly I've simply taken random pictures for family and friends (and a lot of them have also been Sisters of Battle which wouldn't quite fit this thread). I did take up the advice regarding spray priming and subassemblies and my minis have come out better for it (though Aggressors are a PITA for it).

I've recently finishedish a squad of Hellblasters, they're waiting on chapter decals or basing texture or just simply being moved elsewhere at the moment. I'm not saying that the minis are dream catchers, but I do note a lack of nightmares in my life.

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Current plot: Primaris Centurions.Which is basically just plopping Primaris heads on Centurions.

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Lessons learned so far: While super glue is great for some finiky parts, I think I definitely need to go back to plastic glue for tighter fitting or small bits; I had a couple issues where I couldn't get a part on all the way at first because the super glue dried them together too quickly as I was pushing them together. Centurions are also smaller than I thought they would be.

 

I feel I'll need to glue in some blue tac or something to prop up the Primaris head as it sinks down a bit too much for my tastes. No armaments set up on it as of yet as I'm still uncertain as to how I want to arm them, though I'm thinking I might go with lascannons since they're slow and everything else I've been doing has been built for rapid assault.

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Decided to go with lascannons after all, though I think I'll probably do another squad as assault with meltas to represent  them being taken for ship to ship actions (tbh, I've just always really liked Centurions). Tried my hand at using green stuff to try and plug up the gap on the top without too much success, though it did better on the hideous gaps I had on my flamer armed retributors (left shoulders just wouldn't seat right).

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Some basic painting has been done on the first Centurion; I've found it easier to start with the details and such and then go back for the main base color. I'm not sure at this point what color I'll do the lascannon housing. Likely it will be black, though green is a distant and fading second, though as I think about it, red may have some potential. Although they aren't actually power fists, I'll still be painting them up as such using balthasar gold like I have with other models.

 

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Centurion color scheme looks REALLY nice!

 

Thank you!

 

I've finished off this first centurion. New to me for this was some very light dry brushing with niblet green for a touch of edge highlighting, recess shading(rather than simply all over shading), and putting on a few rocks for scenery on basing, a process that only resulted in my fingers being glued together four or five times.

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Thats very nice.

 

I was thinking you could say the sarge isn't jaundiced- its a failure of the gene seed (like Raven Guard or Salamanders) and the yellow colour is seen as specially favoured of Dorn. Dorn did like yellow!

 

I'm a terrible painter so I dont have much advice- but more washes is always more better.

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