Gryph-Hound Orange - Not very orange?

[Lord Marshal]

So I picked this paint up. I was dubious when it turned out redder-than-red in the palette, but figured maybe it takes on orange properties later.

 

Nope, slapped straight on it came out somewhere between Blood Angels Red and Flesh Tearers Red. 

 

Mixing in a 1:1 of Iyalden Yellow, it still retained mostly red properties.

 

Mixing in a 2:1 of Iyalden Yellow it came out a perfect orange.

 

Did I get a bad batch or has this been anyone else's experience? I see pictures around of people just slapping it on and turning out pretty much how my mix with yellow did?

Edited August 13, 2019 by Lord Marshal

[Stercus]

That’s sounds like a really bad batch. I got a pot of the same colour and mine has a perfect orange tone. Almost like a shaded and highlighted trollslayer orange. Sorted out a batch of stealers perfectly.

[Fajita Fan]

I was finally able to order it so I’m waiting for delivery to my store. What are you layering it on? Contrast paints work by contrasting with the base coat. 

[Lord Marshal]

I was finally able to order it so I’m waiting for delivery to my store. What are you layering it on? Contrast paints work by contrasting with the base coat. 

 

Wraithbone.

[Fajita Fan]

I've been transferring my contrasts to dropper bottles so I can mix them in same proportions, I sorta figured I need more yellow in it anyway.  How does it look over whites or metals like Runefang?

 

[Gederas]

So this is gonna sound really, really stupid, and possibly patronizing. But....

 

Did you shake the pot up?

 

And by shake I meant "until there's absolutely no sediment in the bottom that's a different colour than the rest of the liquid".

 

Because Contrast Paints have a tendency to separate.

 

A. Lot.

 

That and I've been told, by a GW employee no less, that Gryph-Hound Orange is honestly more of a brownish orange than a traditional orange... orange. :lol:

Edited August 14, 2019 by Gederas

[Fajita Fan]

That and I've been told, by a GW employee no less, that Gryph-Hound Orange is honestly more of a brownish orange than a traditional orange... orange.

Well crap the picture made it look like orange...orange. 

[Arkhanist]

I've found this gallery to be a pretty good guide of what to expect from Contrast.

 

Assuming there's not a big chunk of whitish pigment stuck to the bottom of the pot (which does definitely darken the final tone if not mixed back in, had it with several contrast pots), then it sounds like a mislabelled or otherwise bad batch. It is a reddish orange, but not darker red than BA red! My pot of wyldwood was like treacle, but added medium helped in that case. A new paint line with high demand will have an inevitable few screwups, you should be able to get a replacement.

[Marshal Rohr]

Several people on IG have reported getting the wrong color in their bottles. You might actually have a Blood Angels or Flesh Tearer red. send well lit pics to GW and ask if this is one of those cases. 

[Fajita Fan]

I've found this gallery to be a pretty good guide of what to expect from Contrast.

 

Assuming there's not a big chunk of whitish pigment stuck to the bottom of the pot (which does definitely darken the final tone if not mixed back in, had it with several contrast pots), then it sounds like a mislabelled or otherwise bad batch. It is a reddish orange, but not darker red than BA red! My pot of wyldwood was like treacle, but added medium helped in that case. A new paint line with high demand will have an inevitable few screwups, you should be able to get a replacement.

That image had some post processing but I can vouch for the reds and blues.  Gray is a nice color for darkening metals, I use a 5/2 mix of gray/medium.

[Closet Skeleton]

 

That image had some post processing but I can vouch for the reds and blues.  Gray is a nice color for darkening metals, I use a 5/2 mix of gray/medium.

 

 

White Balancing isn't necessarily post processing, normal practice is to do it when you set the camera up before taking any photographs.

[Fajita Fan]

Oh it's totally fine, I imagine it was done in that picture because they're separate shots and you want it to look as if all of the bases were shot in one moment together. It's meant to make each picture consistent among one another but colors look different in different lighting.  My gold armor I've been painting comes out looking like tan leather in some lighting 

 

In that shot the orange looks like a pretty traditional orange, they certainly make it look orangey orange on the website.  If I get an old rust color I'm taking the bottles back. 

Edited August 15, 2019 by Fajita Fan

[Claws and Effect]

In my experience you have to spread contrast out pretty thin to get the color it's supposed to be.

 

Hazdreg Yellow looks like Mournfang Brown if you lay it on too thick.

 

My Gryph-Hound Orange is the same way. It's a nice orange, but if it's too thick it becomes a nasty brown.