A Sign of Things to Come?

[librisrouge]

The new marine rules apparently have the demolisher cannon as a Heavy d6 weapon, with no extra rules. Basically, it behaves as if it always is shooting at 5+ models. That is kinda awesome. Anybody else now fervently hoping our humble demolisher gets the same treatment?

 

I know I am.

[Captain_Krash]

I would assume this would have to come over to our side as well...unless my first problem is assuming.

 

Krash

[WarriorFish]

It's got to, just a matter of waiting for the update I expect :) You can be sure I'll be adding my two Demolishers into my next list when that happens! :D

[HallofStovokor]

With D6 shots and unyielding advance from the Emperor's Fist detachment, the demolisher would be our most cost effective anti-knight weapon. Imagine the potential of getting 2D6 S10 AP-3 D6 damage shots at a knight.

[Ldorte]

It would certainly make sense, and it would mean my Malcador Defender would actually be vaguely effective on a more regular basis.

 

However the only non-FW unit with a demolisher cannon is the Leman Russ and I wonder if the grinding advance ability of firing the turret twice in certain situations might make them overlook us from a balance perspective? An odd thought I know considering the craziness in the new marine codex, but it would not surprise me.

Edited August 16, 2019 by Ldorte

[Kain Mor]

^ Baneblade comes with a Demolisher cannon in the hull.

[Dark Legionnare]

^ Baneblade comes with a Demolisher cannon in the hull.

Was just about to say this!

 

Now to see if those rules ever officially reach my Star Phantom's Fellblade, or if I have to just do it myself based on how FW index stuff is never updated, along with having to say it's its pre CA2017 cost, can never take the damn thing now, and it was already a "only for fluff/fun" investment at its OG points region where it was around 700, not the absurd 900+ it is now.

Edited August 17, 2019 by Dark Legionnare

[Ldorte]

^ Baneblade comes with a Demolisher cannon in the hull.

Lol, can't believe I forgot to include that (I have 3!).

[Closet Skeleton]

Presuably the points value would go up as well, a Leman Russ Demolisher commander is a lot more powerful than a vindicator.

[duz_]

It would be nice as my Demolisher was mediocre at best in my last tournament even as a tank Commander (2)D3 shots at high T targets barely scratched any wounds off

[Dark Legionnare]

It would be nice as my Demolisher was mediocre at best in my last tournament even as a tank Commander (2)D3 shots at high T targets barely scratched any wounds off

Let me know how it works out once they hopefully-eventually get updated!  I'd be interested in doing up one or more of the FW demo canons for my krieg lads! (it's basically just a kettle that you put on a barrel for the FW mars tanks, so pretty easy to paint/do up!)

 

I've found that for the most part, battle cannon is still king for me.  I've yet to roll less than 5 shots (Always grinding advance. I know, it can happen of course) in both my Krieg games so far.  Consistently demolishes what I want it too. If it doesn't, it tends to severely cripple at the least!  All from a safer "many" inches away from melta-equivalents.

 

My buddy from VT who does Catachans tends to consistently have poor luck with his Demolishers.  Sometimes they absolutely rip and tear! But the vast majority, they tend to be subpar, and he always runs all three lemans in his list as tank commanders in a supreme command.

Edited August 17, 2019 by Dark Legionnare

[NatBrannigan]

Think the more important change for Guard is that Marines now lose some juicy rules if they go for any non-codex allies. Say, I don't know... 30 Guardsmen and 2 cheap characters?

 

If that's a sign of things to come I'll be delighted, just needs to be included in other codices going forward.