While waiting Raven Guard sprue

[DreamIsCollapsing]

Hello guys, 

 

With the new Space marine codex, but especially the promess of Chapter specific add-on, i'm starting an old dream army : Raven guard.

 

So i got the Shadowspear box, and the new primaris Figs are great, but lack the baroque and Grim Dark esthetic i'm looking for. 

 

So question is : How can we put the Grim back into a Raven guard Primaris army ? 

 

First guess are to add Raven skull (those in the GW skull box for eg) and human/xenos skull as trophies/relic and purity seal. Do you got more ideas ? 

[Dracos]

I like the clean aesthetic myself but if I were to want to embellish that beautifully sleek armor (;)) .... then I would go to some of the web sites like BitzStore, Hoard O Bitz, Bits and Kits, etc.

 

I’d grab all the skull, reliquary and Chaplain bits from the Primaris line and go to town. The Reiver helmets haven’t meet with universal live they might make a strong theme for a Successor Chapter.

 

Best Wishes

[Shadow Captain Vyper]

Another kit that I think is rife with opportunity is the new Warcry band: Corvus Cabal

 

Most of the heads are seperate bits, and from what I can see it looks relatively easy to hollow out the human heads leaving just the raven beak/half skull part (great for shoulder pads). Theres also a handful of bits and bobs that would look great as well.

 

Not cheap mind you, but if you are experienced with blue stuff, looks like a great opportunity to superimpose (if you will) those grisly bits onto Primaris, making them suitably grimdark.

[ImperialTuba]

Most of my Space Marines are Primaris, and before deciding to play Raven Guard I ran them as Imperial Fists for my first few games. Once I made the switch, a friend suggested I get some "Beakies" so that they fit the Chapter better.

 

Initially, I wasn't a fan of the helmets. I had two still sitting on the sprue of my Devastator squad, which was already assembled. Then I ordered a squad of Primaris Suppressors and had the thought of swapping the heads. So I did. 2/3 of my Suppressors now are "Beakies". Unfortunately, they're the only ones in my list with those helmets so far. 

 

Anyways, to get to the point: Maybe give a few of your Vanguard marines the Beaky helmets?

[MajorNese]

Every supplement release will include a chapter specific upgrade sprue. If you're willing to wait until GW decides to release the other half of our codex, then you can get some fitting bitz by that one. And dice.

[MithrilForge]

Although the dice may be the same cost as a box of models   better just to get some nice chessex "Phantom" dice with black and silver through em and have spare change to get the more important upgrade sprue pack 

 

Mithril

[Claws and Effect]

Most of my Space Marines are Primaris, and before deciding to play Raven Guard I ran them as Imperial Fists for my first few games. Once I made the switch, a friend suggested I get some "Beakies" so that they fit the Chapter better.

 

Initially, I wasn't a fan of the helmets. I had two still sitting on the sprue of my Devastator squad, which was already assembled. Then I ordered a squad of Primaris Suppressors and had the thought of swapping the heads. So I did. 2/3 of my Suppressors now are "Beakies". Unfortunately, they're the only ones in my list with those helmets so far.

 

Anyways, to get to the point: Maybe give a few of your Vanguard marines the Beaky helmets?

This.

 

All of my Phobos guys except my Reivers are getting beakies.

 

The thing to remember about Raven Guard is that sleek armor is a GOOD thing for them. They don't embellish their armor much when they're in the field. Hard to be stealthy when you have a bunch of bones clattering off your armor every time you move.

 

As far as Primaris units go, anything in Phobos armor is right up the Raven Guard's alley. There's even mention in the Codex of the Raven Guard sending out entire Strike Forces of purely Phobos armored units.

[Dracos]

I’m not settled on how I feel about Phobos as Raven Guard. Mostly I feel the Sons of Corax served as the penultimate sneaky marine force millennia without it. It feels like it should be a crutch other Chapters need to lean on. I’d like to see our Tacticals and Intercessors doing similar work via a stratagem or some their resource.

 

Just idle musings :)

[Claws and Effect]

I’m not settled on how I feel about Phobos as Raven Guard. Mostly I feel the Sons of Corax served as the penultimate sneaky marine force millennia without it. It feels like it should be a crutch other Chapters need to lean on. I’d like to see our Tacticals and Intercessors doing similar work via a stratagem or some their resource.

 

Just idle musings :)

Yes, but imagine how good the Raven Guard are when wearing the armor that lets other Chapters become a pale imitation of them.......

[Dracos]

I would agree and be giddy as hell, as long as there is a mechanic or two to represent that higher level of SpecOps ;)

[ShinyRhino]

I might be the only RG player who hates the look of Corvus helms on Primaris bodies. There's a disconnect there for me. Im not sure if it's the lack of detail on the old bits clashing with the modern CAD sculpts or the breakup of the armor angles when you replace the smooth Mk10 helm with the beak of the Mk6.

[Claws and Effect]

I might be the only RG player who hates the look of Corvus helms on Primaris bodies. There's a disconnect there for me. Im not sure if it's the lack of detail on the old bits clashing with the modern CAD sculpts or the breakup of the armor angles when you replace the smooth Mk10 helm with the beak of the Mk6.

I use them on Phobos armor specifically. My Intercessors have Reiver heads.

[Nusquam]

The new Vanguard heads with the targeting eye are great. I just ordered 18 off Ebay. As well as 10 of the skull and Laural beakie. Theyll be for my incursors, stalker intercessors, and command. Would love it if the upgrade sprue has something similar.

[MithrilForge]

i wonder how well the new Necromunda "Palantine Enforcers" heads would fit on Reivers... (if you used the Reiver heads on intercessors that is   )

 

Mithril

[duz_]

I might be the only RG player who hates the look of Corvus helms on Primaris bodies. There's a disconnect there for me. Im not sure if it's the lack of detail on the old bits clashing with the modern CAD sculpts or the breakup of the armor angles when you replace the smooth Mk10 helm with the beak of the Mk6.

I agree not a fan of the MkVI on the standard intercessor armour

The Phobos pattern however I don't mind

[Shadow Captain Vyper]

 

I might be the only RG player who hates the look of Corvus helms on Primaris bodies. There's a disconnect there for me. Im not sure if it's the lack of detail on the old bits clashing with the modern CAD sculpts or the breakup of the armor angles when you replace the smooth Mk10 helm with the beak of the Mk6.

I agree not a fan of the MkVI on the standard intercessor armour

The Phobos pattern however I don't mind

 

 

I am of the same mind. An integral part of Mark X Tactical Armor is the collar/gorget, and that doesn't look good with Corvus helms. You either file it off (and take away an iconic component of the aesthetic) or you compromise head placement and get a weird eyeline/pose.

 

I haven't seen enough beaky phobos yet to have an honest opinion. I am really liking the vibe on the Incursor aesthetic, and I look forward to the full kit preview/pre-order!

[Dracos]

I’m scued. I like the Infiltrator model but it’s cost puts me off. I’d love to have 2 squads to run as Troop choices with my Intercessors for a double battalion but ouch. The Incursor is more affordable but that Cylon helmet is killing me yuk

[longjohnsilver]

Another kit that I think is rife with opportunity is the new Warcry band: Corvus Cabal

 

Most of the heads are seperate bits, and from what I can see it looks relatively easy to hollow out the human heads leaving just the raven beak/half skull part (great for shoulder pads). Theres also a handful of bits and bobs that would look great as well.

Actually I got the kit mostly for the 2 ravens and the heads are mostly moulded onto the body or part of the body. It's still possible to convert them but it'll be challenging. I might keep mine for Necromunda and do minimal conversions (hands and bases), whereas head swaps look like they'll be very involved conversions.

 

 

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[seriade]

[Nusquam]

Why couldn't it have 5 beakies plus one unhelmeted instead of those.....other pop culture heads...

 

The pads have the original shrikes stylized RG icon, cool but doesnt match the transfers.

 

Also were good at... throwing grenades and are lefties?

 

I don't understand this sprue.

[seriade]

Obviously they want you to make a guy dual wielding bolt rifles... lol

[Ekim_Trub]

Very disappointed to be honest, I had hoped for more 'beakie' helmets and less bare heads....but those pads are horrendous! We are the Raven Guard- not the Pidgeon Guard!!

[ShinyRhino]

As I said in the N&R thread, I hate the sprues. Worthless bare heads (I use bare heads a lot, just not heads that look like chubby goth basement dwellers), and just terrible sculpted pads. They have too many feathers on the wings, so they look like aquilas not Ravens.

I like all the corvaia gubbins and the rifle/grenade arms, but it's not enough to justify the price tag.

 

The transfers are good, but im currently working my way through one of the old Kastorel Novem sheets and five or ten extra shoulder pad icons again isn't enough for the price tag.

 

Hurry up and release Incursors, GW!

[Inquisitor Eisenhorn]

As per usual I suspect that the bare heads will look different/better painted by other people.  I seriously appreciate that they are including transfers along with the sprues for in these upgrade kits; in general, I just really prefer the look of transfers to sculpted shoulder badges.  

 

I really like the RG codex cover.  I pretty much only focus on Kill Team/Necromunda but I'm stoked to see RG finally get their own supplement and will definitely pick it up.

[Dracos]

Ouch