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He won't, as the Black Legion's rise spells the end of the Legion Wars, which are all but over by the second book.

 

Even as a mega CSM fanboy I don't think the Legion Wars deserve a series as there isn't really a narrative beyond ''every man for himself" and "shoot the green guys". There is plenty of room for stories in that time period, of course, but no need for a series.

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I wouldn't mind seeing the thread of Anthony Reynolds' Khârn: Eater of Worlds picked up again. It was good stuff and really felt like the opening volume of a short series or bunch of stories. The narrative of the breaking of the XIIth legion probably wouldn't go further than a book or two but the novel stopped rather abruptly as the battle of Skalathrax kicked off. A shame, not sure why BL didn't go further with it.

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Killing the Horus clone was the ‘end’ of the Legion Wars in so far as a formal end of anything can happen in a realm without time and in a society where infighting is a brutal expression of natural selection.

 

You could probably quibble about whether it's that or the defeat of Thagus Daravek as the last great pre-Black Crusade challenger to Abaddon, but it's really the difference between the beginning of the end and the end-end.

 

The killing of Horus and the destruction of Harmony certainly did finish the dominance of the Emperor's Children in the Eye which characterised the Legion Wars but it's always going to be a nebulous sort of line to draw.

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Wouldn't such novels/novellas/short stories be the perfect "traitor counterpart" to books about the Loyalist Side at the time revolving around the Codex Astartes Implementation/Breaking up of the Legions/Second Founding and all the "troubles" the loyalists (and the newly implemented/renamed Imperial organizations) have among each other!?

 

A Scouring "Series" (or a collection of books in that time frame), as the aftermath of the Siege, with both sides in disarray and everyone out for revenge, followed by this double-series of the Legion Wars/Codex Debate, in which the Traitors try to fight for a new hierarchy and ways to survive and thrive in the Eye, while the Loyalist Legions/Chapters try to adjust to this new Era and Imperium, after the Emperor is enthroned and one by one the remaining Primarchs vanish into History.

 

If the Authors and BL Team coordinate this well enough, like the Siege Series, there could be quite interesting perspectives on these events, new parts of lore and surely some nice story-hooks between both sides and their struggles.

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While the EC were probably the strongest, at the Legionary wars era I don't think they would have started trouble with EVERYONE otherwise they would have surely been wiped out. I think the period would be more interesting covering the internecine  wars within specific legions like IW's who have had several civil wars themselves. Plus it should be more about the legionaries, not the primarchs. 

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While the EC were probably the strongest, at the Legionary wars era I don't think they would have started trouble with EVERYONE otherwise they would have surely been wiped out. I think the period would be more interesting covering the internecine wars within specific legions like IW's who have had several civil wars themselves. Plus it should be more about the legionaries, not the primarchs.

Technicallg the Alpha Legion were the strongest, though 98% of their Astartes and Auxilaries were in realspace from the Scouring up to M42. Word Bearers should still have their strength as they did not commit to Terra just like the AL

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While the EC were probably the strongest, at the Legionary wars era I don't think they would have started trouble with EVERYONE otherwise they would have surely been wiped out. I think the period would be more interesting covering the internecine wars within specific legions like IW's who have had several civil wars themselves. Plus it should be more about the legionaries, not the primarchs.

Technicallg the Alpha Legion were the strongest, though 98% of their Astartes and Auxilaries were in realspace from the Scouring up to M42. Word Bearers should still have their strength as they did not commit to Terra just like the AL

The Solar War and Lost and the Damned have proven that’s not true.

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Talking about the Great Scouring/Post-Heresy/Slave Wars versions of the Traitor Legions

While the EC were probably the strongest, at the Legionary wars era I don't think they would have started trouble with EVERYONE otherwise they would have surely been wiped out. I think the period would be more interesting covering the internecine wars within specific legions like IW's who have had several civil wars themselves. Plus it should be more about the legionaries, not the primarchs.

Technicallg the Alpha Legion were the strongest, though 98% of their Astartes and Auxilaries were in realspace from the Scouring up to M42. Word Bearers should still have their strength as they did not commit to Terra just like the AL
The Solar War and Lost and the Damned have proven that’s not true.

EDIT: Talking about the Great Scouring and Slave Wars

 

Alpha Legion left Horus before the Solar War and never went into the Warp, for the most part

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You got a source for those claims beyond your usual wild enthusiasm and hyperbole? Nothing has ever given a conclusive answer about what happened with the majority of the Alpha Legion, since the whole point of them is that nobody really knows, but it's been fairly widely accepted in canon that they did retreat to the Eye. Secondly, "double their number every decade"? It's fairly obvious that hasn't happened, since the galaxy isn't completely overrun by Alpha Legion troops. Even beyond that, each Marine only has 2 progenoids, so can only contribute towards creating 2 new Marines, and are useless reproduction-wise after that. That puts a limit to how sharply their numbers can increase.

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It's not like the AL were a coherent force before Terra, except of course in meme culture where despite being totally separate and even fighting against one another, they're old pursuing the same goal in perfect harmony.

 

The Black Legion books themselves have mentions of AL being in the Eye, and Khayon finds one warrior of the XXth among Daravek's army during the defence of the Vengeful Spirit.

 

Besides, if they had such numbers, how come they haven't used them?

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