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I, on the other hand, think fallen Primaris would be an eye rollingly bad idea that would be impossible to do well, and would show a gross misunderstanding of the nature and origins of both the DA and the Fallen.

I also think people are getting their hopes up too much. It's probably a fluff piece and maybe some add on rules to help the DA book catch up to codex marines.
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The Fallen are something from the past. There shouldn't be Primaris ones or GW would have to give Primaris to all chaos legions too. 


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The Fallen are something from the past. There shouldn't be Primaris ones or GW would have to give Primaris to all chaos legions too. 

 

There is actually a very easy way for the Fallen to get Primaris without giving Primaris to all Chaos.

 

Luther has escaped from the Rock.  If he connects back up with Cypher, he'll be able to learn about the Primaris, and learn who he needs to talk to in order to requisition some.  He might even convince Gulliman to put him through the process.

 

Would also give an easy way to fold the fallen back into the DA codex as a subfaction.  The fallen have had plenty of time to study the DA and could easily pass themselves off as a member of the DA.  You would just change the keyword Dark Angel to Fallen and Inner Circle Rule to irredeemable.



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New fallen primaris would be silly.

 

Existing fallen getting their hands on some primaris technology and 'crossing the Rubicon' is more plausible.


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My thoughts.
It’s not a new codex, or even a supplement.
It’s waaaay to soon as they have only made Ezekiel last chance to buy, and no others yet.
I think it’s just going to be a start collecting box for Primaris DA that includes our Primaris Lt.

I don’t see BA, DA, DW, & SW getting a new codex (maybe supplement. As that will make us have to buy two books just like the rest of the well known chapters will do,) till next year sometime.
Plus we have already been told we will get a pdf update for these factions... it’s a stop gap till next year.

So here goes again throwing to the wind the whole “you wont need to carry around a bunch of books this edition” even further. Lqtm. But oh well.

Edited by Harleqvin, 10 August 2019 - 04:51 AM.

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Wait Ezekiel is last chance to buy, intriguing.

Edit: can't see him as last chance to buy on either UK or NZ sites.

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Guess i should get the iconic old Azrael and Ezekiel models before they are primarised, very disappointing and lazy seeing as primaris look bland compared to these old models.


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Guess i should get the iconic old Azrael and Ezekiel models before they are primarised, very disappointing and lazy seeing as primaris look bland compared to these old models.

 

Both the new characters (tigarius and khan) look amazing compared to their old models, so i think there is great hope for really nice azrael and ezekiel... that being said, Azrael is one of the best miniatures in the entire 40k range, he's just really small even compared to other regular marines. So its going to be a pretty high bar to beat.


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Dunno, always liked khans pose where he is charging ahead with the sword 2 handed, the new pose is alright if a little generic. tigurius never stood out that much but that says alot about smurfs. They could just update azrael and ezekiel to the size of the new chaos marines instead of making them primaris, would make sense considering the suspicion dark angels have towards the primaris.

 

It wouldn't be so bad if they still made the old model available as well the new primaris ones but they don't, it also limits the time period the models can be used now. 


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For those who thought Primaris marines were not quite big enough Citadel miniatures are super excited to announce true scale dark angels. Now with extra guns, because one bolt gun is never enough to cleanse a galaxy


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Hmmmmm
Could it be a mini supplement for the DA to bring them up to par with the Astartes, or is it a new model?
Could be Primaris Azrael or the Lion

It's not a supplement, I've been told the stand alone SM codex books are not part of the SM codex supplements. So we still get DA, BA, SW and GK codex books and probably DW.

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My guess is hobby related articles. Nothing more.
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Dunno, always liked khans pose where he is charging ahead with the sword 2 handed, the new pose is alright if a little generic. tigurius never stood out that much but that says alot about smurfs. They could just update azrael and ezekiel to the size of the new chaos marines instead of making them primaris, would make sense considering the suspicion dark angels have towards the primaris.

It wouldn't be so bad if they still made the old model available as well the new primaris ones but they don't, it also limits the time period the models can be used now.


I always found Khan's pose quite awkward. His new one is a bit generic but not awkward so I prefer it. Tigarius is much much better.

I am doubtful we will see updates to any models outside of primaris for at least a while longer. But who knows, it might happen!
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Oh man some Primaris models covered in robes would be awesome. Doubt it is anything major but I have a soft spot for the Dangles and will look forward to this regardless.


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Oh man some Primaris models covered in robes would be awesome. Doubt it is anything major but I have a soft spot for the Dangles and will look forward to this regardless.


I would be all over this
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Dunno, always liked khans pose where he is charging ahead with the sword 2 handed, the new pose is alright if a little generic. tigurius never stood out that much but that says alot about smurfs. They could just update azrael and ezekiel to the size of the new chaos marines instead of making them primaris, would make sense considering the suspicion dark angels have towards the primaris.

It wouldn't be so bad if they still made the old model available as well the new primaris ones but they don't, it also limits the time period the models can be used now.


I always found Khan's pose quite awkward. His new one is a bit generic but not awkward so I prefer it. Tigarius is much much better.

I am doubtful we will see updates to any models outside of primaris for at least a while longer. But who knows, it might happen!

 

 

I don't think we will whatsoever, judging by existing characters being made into primaris, normal marines being less commonly seen on artwork and battle scenes. Its sad seeing as i grew up with the original dudes but its obvious it is going this way no matter what theysay.

 

The primaris just don't have the same amount of character to me, the armour is too standardized and sci-fi looking and the fluff just isn't as good.


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I don't think we will whatsoever, judging by existing characters being made into primaris, normal marines being less commonly seen on artwork and battle scenes. Its sad seeing as i grew up with the original dudes but its obvious it is going this way no matter what theysay.

 

The primaris just don't have the same amount of character to me, the armour is too standardized and sci-fi looking and the fluff just isn't as good.

Man, I wonder how the transition from Rogue Trader and beakies to angry helmet marines, and the setting going from hair metal and satire into grimdark grittiness would've gone if they had today's fanbase size and widespread Internet and forums like these.


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Guess i should get the iconic old Azrael and Ezekiel models before they are primarised, very disappointing and lazy seeing as primaris look bland compared to these old models.

 

Both the new characters (tigarius and khan) look amazing compared to their old models, so i think there is great hope for really nice azrael and ezekiel... that being said, Azrael is one of the best miniatures in the entire 40k range, he's just really small even compared to other regular marines. So its going to be a pretty high bar to beat.

 

 

I do believe that Primaris do look somewhat bland and a bit samey. I've kind of finally gotten to the reasoning that makes sense for me - when we had old marine characters in just power armour there were so many opportunities to introduce uniqueness and a different flavour through the different armour sets be it mkIII all the way to mkVIII. Just for power armour mind, so there was still a large variation in design.

 

For primaris characters in standard primaris power armour, the tacitus suit, there's only one option available. 



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I don't think we will whatsoever, judging by existing characters being made into primaris, normal marines being less commonly seen on artwork and battle scenes. Its sad seeing as i grew up with the original dudes but its obvious it is going this way no matter what theysay.

The primaris just don't have the same amount of character to me, the armour is too standardized and sci-fi looking and the fluff just isn't as good.

Man, I wonder how the transition from Rogue Trader and beakies to angry helmet marines, and the setting going from hair metal and satire into grimdark grittiness would've gone if they had today's fanbase size and widespread Internet and forums like these.

It may well have worked fine, in fact it did work fine.
Grimdark grittiness is very popular and has been very popular for 30 years.

A move away from grimdark to whatever it is evolving into is not going to be as popular with some hobbyists. That's a reality regardless of availability to social media.

Do not belittle, subtly or otherwise, frater that hold other opinions about their own hobby to yours; just saying.
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My guess is hobby related articles. Nothing more.

Either that or army of the month, or both.
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I do find it hilarious that some people were saying the size of newer marine stuff looks great next to regular humans like Cadians, and then GW upsized the humans so they are the same height as marines again :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I don't think we will whatsoever, judging by existing characters being made into primaris, normal marines being less commonly seen on artwork and battle scenes. Its sad seeing as i grew up with the original dudes but its obvious it is going this way no matter what theysay.

The primaris just don't have the same amount of character to me, the armour is too standardized and sci-fi looking and the fluff just isn't as good.

Man, I wonder how the transition from Rogue Trader and beakies to angry helmet marines, and the setting going from hair metal and satire into grimdark grittiness would've gone if they had today's fanbase size and widespread Internet and forums like these.
It may well have worked fine, in fact it did work fine.
Grimdark grittiness is very popular and has been very popular for 30 years.

A move away from grimdark to whatever it is evolving into is not going to be as popular with some hobbyists. That's a reality regardless of availability to social media.

Do not belittle, subtly or otherwise, frater that hold other opinions about their own hobby to yours; just saying.
there is no discernable difference in the depiction 40k today than when i entered the hobby 12 years ago in 2007. prior to 2007 it wasnt really all that different either. cue someone posting tactical marine miniatures from 2007 vs intercesors of today - i think this largely people just wearing nostalgia goggles.

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I don't think we will whatsoever, judging by existing characters being made into primaris, normal marines being less commonly seen on artwork and battle scenes. Its sad seeing as i grew up with the original dudes but its obvious it is going this way no matter what theysay.

The primaris just don't have the same amount of character to me, the armour is too standardized and sci-fi looking and the fluff just isn't as good.

Man, I wonder how the transition from Rogue Trader and beakies to angry helmet marines, and the setting going from hair metal and satire into grimdark grittiness would've gone if they had today's fanbase size and widespread Internet and forums like these.
It may well have worked fine, in fact it did work fine.
Grimdark grittiness is very popular and has been very popular for 30 years.

A move away from grimdark to whatever it is evolving into is not going to be as popular with some hobbyists. That's a reality regardless of availability to social media.

Do not belittle, subtly or otherwise, frater that hold other opinions about their own hobby to yours; just saying.
there is no discernable difference in the depiction 40k today than when i entered the hobby 12 years ago in 2007. prior to 2007 it wasnt really all that different either. cue someone posting tactical marine miniatures from 2007 vs intercesors of today - i think this largely people just wearing nostalgia goggles.
Your one example Intercessors is a good one, Hellblasters is another; In my 30 years in the hobby much has changed, but if you cannot see the difference of the last 2 years then it is not others wearing goggles 😎.

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If we don't agree with an opinion too bad, don't belittle anyone. It wasn't too bad above but this thread is not about that.
Not agreeing with facts etc. is fine and should be discussed constructively where appropriate.+

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Primaris Dark Angels? Hmmm, interesting. I'm surprised if I'm honest, I was expecting Blood Angels, Dark Angels and Space Wolves to be reasonably big releases next year, which would include their own chapter-specific Primaris kits (Deathwing Aggressors or whatever). Following so quickly on from the new marine codex surely this must be a hobby-related article, as we've already had a Primaris upgrade frame? If isn't that, it'll be a new codex updated like the marine book, along with maybe a couple of rubicon Primaris characters, which would be a shame, as I doubt we'll be getting much more than that, so soon after the regular codex release.

 

 

 

 

Dunno, always liked khans pose where he is charging ahead with the sword 2 handed, the new pose is alright if a little generic. tigurius never stood out that much but that says alot about smurfs. They could just update azrael and ezekiel to the size of the new chaos marines instead of making them primaris, would make sense considering the suspicion dark angels have towards the primaris.

It wouldn't be so bad if they still made the old model available as well the new primaris ones but they don't, it also limits the time period the models can be used now.


I always found Khan's pose quite awkward. His new one is a bit generic but not awkward so I prefer it. Tigarius is much much better.

I am doubtful we will see updates to any models outside of primaris for at least a while longer. But who knows, it might happen!

 

 

I don't think we will whatsoever, judging by existing characters being made into primaris, normal marines being less commonly seen on artwork and battle scenes. Its sad seeing as i grew up with the original dudes but its obvious it is going this way no matter what theysay.

 

The primaris just don't have the same amount of character to me, the armour is too standardized and sci-fi looking and the fluff just isn't as good.

 

 

I've seen this comment about Primaris banded around a fair amount, but I'm not sure it's very fair. If you look at marines pre-4th edition they were fairly standardised. The 2nd edition sculpts really epitomised this and they were all Jes Goodwin sculpts. Jes's sketches for mkVIII from the early 90's obviously strongly influenced the design of the Intercessors.  I remember a white dwarf article with a competition - name your own chapter (and it would become part of official lore and a squad would be painted by eavy metal). The winning entry was the White Lions chapter and the blurb in WD stated that they were a codex compliant chapter. The only "deviation" from the codex was the inclusion of an older suit of mk VI armour in the tactical squad, lol. I think the first real marine release which veered off from this relatively clean design was the first metal veterans box, in 4th, and the over-the-top grimdark/bling followed on from there. For me, the Primaris release goes back to marines as they used to be. In any case, you'll be getting grimdark Primaris eventually; I'm pretty sure Jes mentions this in his web interview.


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