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I haven't played nids in years but I have been rebuilding an army. So here's my thoughts for my army.

 

 

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids) [60 PL, 8CP, 980pts] ++

 

+ No Force Org Slot +

 

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

 

Detachment CP [5CP]

 

Hive Fleet: Kraken

 

Use Beta Rules

 

+ HQ +

 

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 215pts]: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Chameleonic Mutation, Warlord, Warlord Trait: One Step Ahead, Wings

 

The Swarmlord [15 PL, 250pts]

 

+ Troops +

 

Genestealers [16 PL, 242pts]: Flesh Hooks

. 20x Genestealer: 20x Rending Claws

 

Genestealers [16 PL, 240pts]

. 20x Genestealer: 20x Rending Claws

 

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

 

++ Outrider Detachment +1CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [18 PL, , 294pts] ++

 

+ No Force Org Slot +

 

[Reference] Ambush Markers

 

Cult Creed: The Rusted Claw

 

Detachment CP [1CP]

 

Stratagem: Grandsire's Gifts [-1CP]: 1 Extra Sacred Relic

 

+ HQ +

 

Jackal Alphus [4 PL, 70pts]: The Gift from Beyond

 

+ Fast Attack +

 

Achilles Ridgerunners [4 PL, 84pts]

. Achilles Ridgerunner: Flare Launcher, Heavy Mining Laser, 2x Heavy Stubber

 

Atalan Jackals [5 PL, 70pts]

. Atalan Jackal: Grenade Launcher, Shotgun

. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun

. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun

. Atalan Leader: Autogun, Shotgun

. Atalan Wolfquad: Mining Laser, Shotgun

 

Atalan Jackals [5 PL, 70pts]

. Atalan Jackal: Grenade Launcher, Shotgun

. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun

. Atalan Jackal: Cultist Knife, Shotgun

. Atalan Leader: Autogun, Shotgun

. Atalan Wolfquad: Mining Laser, Shotgun

 

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Tyranids) [43 PL, 5CP, 726pts] ++

 

+ No Force Org Slot +

 

Detachment CP [5CP]

 

Hive Fleet: Kronos

 

+ HQ +

 

Neurothrope [4 PL, 90pts]

 

Tervigon [13 PL, 198pts]: Massive Scything Talons, Stinger Salvo

 

+ Troops +

 

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

 

Ripper Swarms [2 PL, 33pts]: 3x Ripper Swarm

 

Termagants [9 PL, 108pts]

. 27x Termagant (Fleshborer)

 

+ Elites +

 

Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts]

. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

. Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

 

Zoanthropes [6 PL, 120pts]: 3x Zoanthrope

 

++ Total: [121 PL, 13CP, 2,000pts] ++

 

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People usually go for Monstrous Rending Claws on tyrants, rather than the scything talons.

They're Free!

Due to the re-rolls to wound they grant, they actually end up doing better damage against most targets.

A kraken flyrant in particular really likes to have a gun too. So it can leave combat, shoot something, then charge back in.

 

Hive Guard are usually taken in a unit of 6.  Because they are what you will be using the Single Minded Annihilation stratagem on, to double-fire them each turn.  The bigger the unit size, the more extra shots that 2CP is giving you.

 

Zoanthropes are usually taken at a unit size of either 4 or 6.  Because at each of those unit sizes their smite gets more powerful.  At only 3 zoanthropes, they only have a regular smite with a bit more range.

 

Tervigons are... questionable.  Their problem is that they don't really do anything except replenish dead termagants.  If someone kills all of those 27 termagants, then the tervigon can no longer replace them, and you're left with a kinda pointless and expensive monster, with no decent guns or effective close combat ability.  Remember that while replenishing dead gaunts in an existing unit is free, creating a new unit costs reinforcement points.

You could take about 50 extra termagants instead of the tervigon, and would end up with far more gaunts than it was likely to ever produce.

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Thanks for your thoughts on this. So far I have done 1 test and we timed out on turn 3 against necrons 17 to 15 with nid ahead. But if the game were to continue I would have been table turn 5 at the latest. As much as I hate forge world the malenthorp looks good for some much needed support until a new codex or a very needed update. I have also been thinking of getting a broodlord too.
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  • 2 months later...

I agree with everything said above.

 

What I would recommend is dropping the zoanthropes (the Neurothrope can do the same job only with character protection and re rolling 1’s)

 

I’d also swap the flyrant’s talons for MRC to save points.

 

These two changes free’s up enough points to fill out the hive guard. Making full use of ‘single minded annihilation’.

 

I’d consider dropping the tervigon in favour of more Gants and a second Neurothrope. I’ve not been impressed with the tervi in 8th edition. Fingers crossed she gets some love in the new supplement.

 

I can’t critique the GSC bikes too well, since I’ve never played them. But would it be an idea to take demo charges and make use of the stratagem where you can grow multiple Grenades? Food for thought :)

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