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Belisarius Cawl: The Great Work


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So I get an email from Black Library this morning telling me the Belasarius Cawl novel is up for order. Was this even mentioned in the coming soon section?


Edited by Brother Tyler, 27 September 2019 - 11:43 AM.

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Any one read the great work yet? I'm curious for spoilers
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Any one read the great work yet? I'm curious for spoilers


Today’s the preorder date so I doubt anyone outside of GW has it yet. Ebook drops on the 21st, not sure when physical copies will arrive.

Edited by cheywood, 14 September 2019 - 05:05 PM.

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Any one read the great work yet? I'm curious for spoilers


Today’s the preorder date so I doubt anyone outside of GW has it yet. Ebook drops on the 21st, not sure when physical copies will arrive.

 

the audio format will hopefully be up on audible by wednesday, seems like audible releases the stuff a few days early


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Any one read the great work yet? I'm curious for spoilers

I hope the book answers a lot of questions with flash backs to the whole Primaris/Emperor’s blessing/Guilliman issues people have.

Then it can end in present on Sotha with Cawl saying “I wonder what will happen if I press this red button” as he pushes it. At that point it shifts outside the galaxy to the Great Devourer who response with “Who keeps pushing that damn button?”

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I'm calling the following (building up on rookies idea)

 

Cawl pushes the button and nothing happens.

Within the void between the galaxies...

The Great Devourer: "Wait...who turned off the light?"

And thus, only those tendrils of the Great Debourer already present in our galaxy, continue their quest of hunger while the rest turns around, heading for another galaxy...

 

Honestly, I'm not into AdMech stuff but that one I'll gonna get for sure.


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This is the book that the warcom site advertised as being the one of great importance to developments in the galaxy right now, when announced during Black Library live.

 

Expectations are high.



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Could he press the button that activates the awakening? ;P


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I think LordValrak is likely spot on with it being the awakening tie in. It is a great opportunity for the Primaris lore to be cleaned up as much as possible for those against the entire idea of Primaris. I hope this opportunity is not missed.

I’m with Kelborn here in that I’m getting this one for sure! I’ve always said allow GW the time to workout the lore for Primaris and Cawl. It may not satisfy everyone, but there is plenty of room to smooth things out. Like the details of Cawl & Guilliman relationship 10K years prior and how/why the Primaris project started. Hopefully via Emperor’s blessing like Corax had done. If The Emperor allowed Cawl access to His previous work or Roboute, as his son, took initiative to allow Cawl access to build off of it, I think many would be more at ease and stop complaining about things being “shoehorned” in. Have faith brothers!

However, if the opportunity is missed, let’s just all grumble and move on with the shoehornization of it all.
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Could he press the button that activates the awakening? ;P


Well, he already gave birth to the Great Rift by accident, soooo ;)

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Im also interested in the great work.
If anyone could spoil it later on ;)

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Just pre-ordered the e-book and looking forward to it. Man Guy is a machine! I recently read The Lost and the Damned (great book) and now reading his Kurze book which is awesome thus far and probably will be a top 3 in the Primarch series for me. 

 

I do think the Primaris stuff is slightly silly (Why do the painted UM character's helmet look like football helmets...sort of silly) but have read most of the relevant books since I am a Guilliman whore. If he does the book switching between the current events to the HH era I think it will be very good. This Saturday...


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As I said earlier, I can't be counted as an AdMech fanboy but I'm more than curious about possible flashbacks, revelations and clarifications in terms of Cawl, his relation to Guiliman, Primaris (even a slightest hint of having one of the failed Foundings like the Cursed or Dark ones being failed Primaris attempts would be great for me) and of Sotha itself.

I'm hoping some answers. I'd be happy with a good novel.

Oh and Scythes of the Emperor, please. ;)
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Given my strong dislike of Cawl and lack of enthusiasm for Haley's depiction of him in Wolfsbane, this is one where I'll sit it out and wait for the reviews before considering a purchase.


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I can’t see how this isn’t a must buy for 40k followers. Cawl has emerged (from nowhere I agree!) as such a central character to the overall plot that his story surely is essential to understand the current setting and possible futures.

Good book or bad book this book will be core lore.

Ordered alongside gloomspite. Can’t wait for both.
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Just got this from Amazon. Looks like this continues the story of Cawl and Qvo from Wolfsbanein 30K, alternating with events in 40K.

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No brainer what my interests are in this book. ;)


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The colour of Cawl's knickers?

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No brainer what my interests are in this book. ;)


Now i don't know much about the Scythes and how Sotha fell to the tyranids, but there are some interesting details about that in the book. Not sure how much of it is new more.

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Damn I just read the spoilers.

I’m on board. Everything I was upset about was addressed. Everything blends well. Everything lines up exactly with how I had conceptualized his existence and how he was able to do what he has done. When his character was first released so much of it was just straight up unbelievable and ridiculous and it’s like Haley went down the list of ways I had come up with to justify his character and checked every single box. I’ll be honest, when guy first came on the scene I didn’t like his books. I have a deep dislike of Eternal Crusader, not because it’s bad, but because it doubled down on the BT lore changes. I wasn’t fond of Pharos, but it wasn’t bad either. That being said, after Titandeath, Night Haunter, Dark Imperium, and Plague War I think I’m finally seeing what kind of author he is. He produces books so fast you can’t take them each as a stand alone like you can with ADB or Abnett. He’s got his own Haley-verse that interconnects and explains over a series of books and not in the same way Graham has his own McNeill-verse which is the stories of a few characters in an Odyssey like overarching narrative. Graham’s characters are like Sherlock Holmes compared to Guy’s SoIaF. I’m glad to say I was wrong about him when he first came on the scene and now I actively look forward to his books.
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Where are these delightful spoilers?



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Oh, hey, damage control for Cawl/retcons and hints at the Cawl Inferior plotline going somewhere interesting.

 

It certainly makes "Cawl" more plausible and setting appropriate.


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I’ve read four chapters so far and it’s really, really good.

And first tidbit for me - Felix is primaris 10-079-983 implying there are many, many thousands of primaris marines

Edited by Red_Shift, 21 September 2019 - 12:27 PM.





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