Benefits of vanguard vets?

[Duke Danse Macabre]

Going through old models I would like a reason to use again.

I have 20 vanguard vets ready to go but I can't find a use for them, they are either too squishy or not Killy enough.

That said they are great models.

Does anyone run them anymore and if so what for and how does it do?

[Chris521]

I personally don't run squads of them, but as long as I'm not dealing with embarking restrictions, my kill teams will have one.

[quasistellar]

I like them in kill teams. One per squad.

[IronDreddKnight]

If you think your kill teams will get caught in melee, take one for fall back and shoot. When I run them, I take them with dual bolt pistols.

[Mobius0288]

If I run 2 blackstars, I usually include since 5 + a jump char can fit. It's a harassing unit or a character killer unit for me.

 

Also good unit for when you want to push turn 1 with better movement. For example my list uses 2 bikers, drop pod with 5-man and character (beacon). I have a smash Captain I'm going to run up with the bikers and a cheapish 5-8 man VV unit with some storm shields and chainswords. Teleport a sizeable shooty unit up with the pod. Totally for fun.

[Morticon]

Noting the obvious damage output difference as a BA player, I do use them frequently. Previously, I found the lackluster, but where I felt I was going wrong was that I wasn't using enough specials.  

My current VVets (10man strong) either run with 5 fists, or 3 fists and 3 axes.  You may find they putt their weight a little more in this regard -especially with shock assault now.