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New to Death Guard in 8th edition - Help requested - 2k list

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Greetings from the Eye:

 

Although I am a longtime Chaos player, and I have played Death Guard in previous editions, I have never played a single game using the 8th ed Death Guard Codex.  I bought it when it came out but I was busy with grad school (for the second time . . . and while I was working full time . . . I am a glutton for punishment) and I never had time to play.  Now that I have finished my grad school program I want to play some Death Guard.  I tried making a 2000-point list today and . . . it did not go well.  I have a campaign starting this Saturday in which I need to field a 1000 point and a 2000 point list, and the campaign is expected to last for about ten weeks.  Each week I will need to play two games, one with my 1000 point list and the other with my 2000 point list.  We're using the Streets of Death campaign map rules from Urban Conquest, but NOT the Cities of Death optional rules.  I'm actually very excited about this campaign, but I can't seem to crack the code on the 8th ed Death Guard Codex.  I would greatly appreciate any thoughts and suggestions the kind and malevolent entities that dwell on the B&C may have to share with me.  To get the ball rolling, when I tried to make my 2000 point list it ended up at well over 2700 points, and I still felt like I was leaving out all the heavy hitters.  Even at 2700 points I couldn't find points for any big tanks, no Chaos Land Raiders, no Plagueburst Crawlers, nothing heavier than a Rhino.  Here is a quick and dirty summary of the list I built.  I'm not going to give exact point numbers because the fact is I am way over points, so trimming some fat here and there is probably not going to be sufficient, I think I need to go back to the foundation and start over.  Anyway, here is what I had in my 2700 point list (that was supposed to be 2000 points!), and again I request assistance making my list better:

 

 

Dual Battalion

 

Battalion 1:

 

HQ1:  Typhus

HQ2: Lord of Contagion

 

T1:  Plague Marines x 7 (1 Blight Lauancher, 1 Meltagun)

T2:  Plague Marines x 7 (1 Plasmagun)

T3:  Poxwalkers x 20

 

FA1:  Foetid Bloat Drone with Plaguespitters
FA2:  Foetid Bloat Drone with Plaguespitters

FA3:  Foetid Bloat Drone with Plaguespitters

 

 

Battalion 2:

 

HQ1:  Daemon Prince of Nurgle (with wings)

HQ2:  Malignant Plaguecaster

 

T1:  Plague Marines x 7 (1 Plasmagun)

T2:  Plague Marines x7 (1 Plasmagun)

T3:  Plague Marines x7 (1 Plasmagun)

T4:  Chaos Cultists x 40

T5:  Chaos Cultists x 40

 

FA1:  Myphitic Blight-Haulers x3

 

DD1:  Chaos Rhino

DD2:  Chaos Rhino

DD3:  Chaos Rhino

 

 

 

I would like to add Plagueburst Crawlers, Blightlord Terminators, and maybe even a Chaos Land Raider (or a Spartan . . . or a Fellblade--I love that model), but I simply can't figure out what I am doing wrong with this list and I don't see a way to fit in any of those things.  Again, if you have suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

 

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"I was told there would be cake.  The cake is a lie."  --Sten, DRAGON AGE: ORIGINS

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I would drop the LoC, alll the troops from the second battalion, and 1 Rhino. Make an outrider detachment with you fast attacks and DP. Put 2 blight launchers and 1 plasma in each PM squad. You snhould have enough points for some Blightlords and maybe a crawler or two (the indirect fire maybe useful).
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Thanks for your input.  I've been playing around with the list, and I was able to make a list under 2000 points.  I'm not sure I like it.  Comments, feedback, suggestions welcome!

 

Death Guard Battalion - Streets of Death v2 - 4 Oct 19 (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [117 PL, -1CP, 1,995pts]

 

 

Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [60 PL, 1,084pts]

 

 

HQ Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 115pts]

      • Selections: 6. Arch-Contaminator, Fugaris' Helm, Plaguereaper, Warlord

Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 115pts]  
      • Selections: Plaguereaper

Troops Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts] 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun  
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Cultist Champion  
        • Selections: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts] 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun  
        •  
Cultist Champion  
        • Selections: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts] 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun  
        •  
Cultist Champion  
        • Selections: Autogun

Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts] 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun  
        •  
Cultist Champion  
        • Selections: Autogun

Poxwalkers [6 PL, 108pts]  
      • Selections: 18x Poxwalker

Fast Attack Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]  
      • Selections: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]  
      • Selections: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]  
      • Selections: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

Dedicated Transport Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 72pts]  
      • Selections: Combi-bolter

Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [57 PL, -1CP, 911pts] No Force Org Slot Gifts of Decay (1 Relic) [-1CP]  
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HQ Malignant Plaguecaster [6 PL, 110pts]  
      • Selections: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 5. Putrescent Vitality, The Pandemic Staff

Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]  
      • Selections: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 5. Putrescent Vitality

Troops Plague Marines [7 PL, 91pts] Plague Champion Codex  
          • Selections: Boltgun, Plague knife

3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun  
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Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon  
        • Selections: Plasma gun

Plague Marines [7 PL, 90pts] Plague Champion Codex  
          • Selections: Boltgun, Plague knife

3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun  
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Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon  
        • Selections: Blight launcher

Plague Marines [7 PL, 94pts] Plague Champion Codex  
          • Selections: Boltgun, Plague knife

3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun  
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Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon  
        • Selections: Meltagun

Fast Attack Myphitic Blight-haulers [21 PL, 351pts] Myphitic Blight-hauler  
        • Selections: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

Myphitic Blight-hauler  
        • Selections: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

Myphitic Blight-hauler  
        • Selections: Missile launcher, Multi-melta


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Edited by Vorenus, 04 October 2019 - 11:19 PM.

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Playing around with the 2000-point list some more.  I managed to squeeze in a Plagueburst Crawler, but it cost me one of my three Foetid Blight Drones.  What do y'all think about this version?

 

Death Guard Battalion - Streets of Death v2 - 4 Oct 19 (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [122 PL, 1,999pts]
  • Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [56 PL, 1,029pts]
    • HQ
      • Chaos Lord [5 PL, 82pts]

        Selections: Balesword, Combi-bolter

      • Lord of Contagion [7 PL, 115pts]

        Selections: Plaguereaper

    • Troops
      • Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]
        • 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
        • Cultist Champion

          Selections: Autogun

      • Chaos Cultists [3 PL, 50pts]
        • 9x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
        • Cultist Champion

          Selections: Autogun

      • Poxwalkers [6 PL, 120pts]

        Selections: 20x Poxwalker

    • Fast Attack
      • Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]

        Selections: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

      • Foetid Bloat-drone [8 PL, 158pts]

        Selections: 2x Plaguespitters, Plague probe

    • Heavy Support
      • Plagueburst Crawler [8 PL, 136pts]

        Selections: 2x Entropy cannon, Heavy slugger

    • Dedicated Transport
      • Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]

        Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher

      • Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]

        Selections: Combi-bolter, Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher

  • Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [66 PL, 970pts]
    • HQ
      • Malignant Plaguecaster [6 PL, 110pts]

        Selections: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 5. Putrescent Vitality

      • Typhus [9 PL, 175pts]

        Selections: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 5. Putrescent Vitality

    • Troops
      • Plague Marines [10 PL, 108pts]
        • Plague Champion
          • Codex

            Selections: Boltgun, Plaguesword

        • 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
        • Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon

          Selections: Plasma gun

      • Plague Marines [10 PL, 107pts]
        • Plague Champion
          • Codex

            Selections: Boltgun, Plaguesword

        • 4x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
        • Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon

          Selections: Blight launcher

      • Plague Marines [10 PL, 119pts]
        • Plague Champion
          • Codex

            Selections: Boltgun, Plaguesword

        • 3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun
        • Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon

          Selections: Plasma gun

        • Plague Marine w/ Special Weapon

          Selections: Plasma gun

    • Fast Attack
      • Myphitic Blight-haulers [21 PL, 351pts]
        • Myphitic Blight-hauler

          Selections: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

        • Myphitic Blight-hauler

          Selections: Missile launcher, Multi-melta

        • Myphitic Blight-hauler

          Selections: Missile launcher, Multi-melta


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Drop the cultists, and lord of contagion.

Both are terrible, especially the lord of contagion. This will give you enough points for a 2nd PBC. One PBC wont do a damn thing.

Dropping the pox walkers should give you enough points for a 3rd PBC. It also gives you about 50 pts spare. 

Drop the havoc launchers. I have used them in every game i play but they are terrible. I dont think i have done a single wound with them yet.

 

Typhus is terrible but if you do want him then i suggest dropping one unit of plage marines and taking the 20 unit of pox walkers.

This will allow you to deploy your plague marines inside the rhinos. However consider why you are taking the rhinos. They protect your guys but stop them from shooting. And when they die they may kill the guys they were actively trying to protect. Basically if you drop the 2 rhinos you could get an extra unit of plague marines which will have better shooting and are more survivable against multi damage, S8/9 weapons.

Give all your plague marines 2 special weapons - double plasma or blight launchers. If possible increase there numbers to 7...its nurgles number






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