sairence Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) In the next White Dwarf. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/04/white-dwarf-preview-octobergw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-4/ Looks like new fluff as well as updated rules. Three datasheets suggest it will be the same units though, with no new ones for an actual HQ for example, which is a shame. I wouldn't mind seeing a Talons-keyword added to them that they can later add to Custodes as well, with some bespoke rules. And I think it'd be great if they aura would also affect demons in some way, similar to the Watchers of the Throne fluff. And it the Rhino got some unique ability that would also be cool. But definitely excited. I have a bunch of them waiting for some attention. :) Edited October 5, 2019 by sairence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I am stoked about this. I think they're updating the dex in order to release an HQ as a part of the Psychic Awakening event. The SoS have the potential to play a major role in PA- it is literally what they were made to do. I've been wanting to buy 15 of these sisters for a long time; I've already got Greyfax, who I bought specifically for this purpose. I also have a cullexus assassin- the female sculpt from Wargames Exclusive. That's a whole lot of psyker hate. The won't always fight alongside my Sisters of Battle, but when there are witches to be burned... Anyone have a working set of 8th ed rules for the acquisitor? I don't think it made the Forge World index, so as far as I know, it officially has rules for 30k only. I've wanted the model since I saw it, but no rules is a biggy for me. With SoS, Assassin and Rogue Traders covered, they're only missing Inquisition to pull it altogether as an Imperial Agents Dex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 Sadly the Acqcuisitor only has 30k rules. It would be great if it was transferred over, I have one unbuilt. :D I'd also love if they got an HQ and there is some sense to the suggestion. Bring them in line now, expand them in thr new arc. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 I'm afraid the WD update probably means nothing is happening for PA. Obviously with the GW content hose anything could happen, but I imagine these Index article will be the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 The Ynarri WD article is being reprinted in the first PA book; I suspect it will receive some small additions to the original article for the campaign itself. Thats what I see for SoS- the episode in PA might not come til the new year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 WD article is just the index rules, chapter approved prices, and null maiden vanguard detachment. The only change I can see is that the psyk out grenades were nerfed - instead of inflicting mortal wounds on 6 to hit in addition to normal damage they now have "a hit roll of 6+ inflicts a mortal wound on the target and the attack sequence ends" Didn't even give the rhino a second stormbolter option. librisrouge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Wait, the only change is a nerf? To units that already weren’t really worth fielding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 WD article is just the index rules, chapter approved prices, and null maiden vanguard detachment. The only change I can see is that the psyk out grenades were nerfed - instead of inflicting mortal wounds on 6 to hit in addition to normal damage they now have "a hit roll of 6+ inflicts a mortal wound on the target and the attack sequence ends" Didn't even give the rhino a second stormbolter option. .... You DO realize that's how GW is now writing effects that do Mortal Wounds, right? Because when it says "inflicts a mortal wound on the target and the attack sequence ends" it means your opponent doesn't roll a save for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 There is a small points drop* for a few things. The rules are otherwise very similar, with the addition of a similar detachment system as the Assassins. From the translation I have seen it appears that the restriction on their ability not functioning inside of a transport is not there.No Strategems. That is a huge bummer.*I don't know what CA did for them. But anyway, they went down a PPM and the Greatblade went down by half. Flamer is standard price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Wow, thats a pretty major bummer :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 If the points are 10, 15 and 16 then it’s no change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Wow, thats a pretty major bummer That it is. Everything else was expected. Nothing big in terms of datasheets or new special rules, which is fine. I guess the points are from CA, so nothing new there. I was expecting Strategems. Not a ton, but maybe 3-5. Instead, nothing. A huge letdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 .... You DO realize that's how GW is now writing effects that do Mortal Wounds, right? Because when it says "inflicts a mortal wound on the target and the attack sequence ends" it means your opponent doesn't roll a save for it. It would seem to imply (but is unclear), that if you roll one or more 6s you inflict a single mortal wound and then stop, disregarding any further effects of the weapon. This would differ from the index rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) I mean it's nice to have the rules in print again but wow... Not even one stratagem? Some simple re-rolls or anti-psyker stuff wouldve been cool. Maybe a flavour one that interacts with Custodes... I guess my Susters are indeed becoming AoS ladies with Swords. Edited October 15, 2019 by Charlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenzaburo Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Wow, this is disheartening news. Especially after the already lacklustre treatment they had to suffer from since start of 8th. Why mess it up even further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher956 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) WD article is just the index rules, chapter approved prices, and null maiden vanguard detachment. The only change I can see is that the psyk out grenades were nerfed - instead of inflicting mortal wounds on 6 to hit in addition to normal damage they now have "a hit roll of 6+ inflicts a mortal wound on the target and the attack sequence ends" Didn't even give the rhino a second stormbolter option. .... You DO realize that's how GW is now writing effects that do Mortal Wounds, right? Because when it says "inflicts a mortal wound on the target and the attack sequence ends" it means your opponent doesn't roll a save for it. So on a 6+ they do a MW and thats it... instead of a MW + the chance to wound normally the lack of a 2nd Stormbolter on the rhino is a bit lackluster... espically as every other faction can... however you only get one in the box so are they bringing the rules in line with the box? (SMs dont count because get flying things!, and SoB will get their own one -possibly)) EDIT - Index: Imperium 2 is out of print ... so GW have just put the SoS (and in Nov the INQ) in to WD so they are still in print... then at the end of the year they will put them in to CA'19... then they can still be run in official tournaments. Edited October 15, 2019 by Slasher956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Maybe this means they’ll get something in one of the psychic awakening books? #graspingatstraws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely Wargamming Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Could we still hope they will be included in the PA releases? I am not very familiar with White Dwarf releases, does that usually indicate that is all they get? Or is WD just a taste of things to come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcoon Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 What even was the point in this if they're still now completely unusable and not worth taking with Custodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dice4thedicegod Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 Best case now I think, is that we hope one of the psychic awakening books gives us the option for a -1 cp specialist detachment which can mix Custodes and sisters (and maybe take a Sisters hq) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainely Wargamming Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 It would be boss if we could include them as Elites in a Custodes Army, and give them the Custodes Keyword, so we can keep the chapter specific buffs and even with weak shooting, a bunch of dirt cheap flamer squads with a 5++, a Blank Aura that stacks -1s to cast, are immune to psychic stuff, and get OBJSEC would make me very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I do believe Imperial Agents is coming, and I think it will be connected to PA somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 What even was the point in this if they're still now completely unusable and not worth taking with Custodes? I mean you can still use them with a Primaris Psyker HQ in a regular Vanguard detachment. Astra Telepathica is the shared keyword. There blank ability working from inside a Rhino is a neat, albeit small, buff. It's just disappointing that that's it. GW keeps bringing them into the fluff but seems to be doing nothing else with them, even though they are a perfect tool for the point the story is at. We can really only hope that they feature in some way later down the line in PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 When did SoS get changed in chapter approved? Other change is the Rhino is apparently fast attack (Or was it always?) also minimum 2 squads v 3 to a Detachment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 I think they got changed in CA 2017. Been a while. Rhino was a dedicated transport, same as in other armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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