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[DuskRaider]

I’m liking the WT to turn a character into a possessed
Pretty awesome

I haven’t been paying much attention to this but are the seperate Chaos Legion armies like DG meant to be getting any new rules or stuff this psychic awakening

Death Guard, Thousand Sons, Black Legion and Chaos Knights were also listed when Psychic Awakening was first announced so I'd say so, but probably not until book 3 or 4.

[DeadFingers]

Volume 3 seems weird for Chaos Marines, being on Baal with Angels and Nids as the main armies, but we might see Daemons there. Volume 4 is supposedly Wolves Vs. Orks, but the location was right on Prospero/Sortiarius, so the Thousand sons have a solid chance of appearing. The rest are absolutely getting rules later because they said everyone would get rules, we just don't know when or in which context.

[DuskRaider]

That or they'll hand us rules without the factions being involved in the fight. In surprised, they could have added Chaos Knights now but declined. IF Death Guard are directly involved with the plot, they may show up as an enemy for Thousand Sons and seeing some actual Chaos v. Chaos in the rules and lore would be really cool. Black Legion can be literally anywhere.

[Marshal Loss]

For those who care (me), Kor Phaeron does feature in Faith & Fury's narrative, he's not just directing the fleet from afar. The big man finally has his debut in 40k.

[Sete]

Got any fluff spoilers?

[DeadFingers]

For those who care (me), Kor Phaeron does feature in Faith & Fury's narrative, he's not just directing the fleet from afar. The big man finally has his debut in 40k.

Well how about that.

 

Now we just need Erebus to reappear too, and with Lorgar being active as per the CSM Codex, the Three Amigos will be on the loose again and GW can release a new triumvirate.

[Marshal Loss]

Got any fluff spoilers?

 

Don't have any major spoilers beyond some usual tropes that you'd expect as I haven't seen the ending yet (Chaos do evil stuff to summon a lot of Daemons, Loyalists do holy stuff to dismiss a larger number of them, etc).

 

What is notable though is that the scale of the conflict isn't anywhere near as large as GW usually tend to write - the Black Templars for example only have a Gladius Strike Force present, so we're not looking at 10,000 Space Marines vs. 15,000 Chaos Space Marines or anything ridiculous like that - which I really, really like. The bits I've seen are actually pretty good. I won't say the magical "GW have written a campaign book with a decent story" just yet, but it's already looking streets ahead of the last few I've read.

[Sete]

I supose the BT 3 amigos (lol) arent present there?

This feels like a rules update just to bring BT into line.
Gonna wait until Hel and Grim get back to the narrative.

Good to know that Kor Phaeron is present. WB could use a dude in 40k.

One last question, do BT have Primaris present on the Crusade?

Edited by Sete, 16 November 2019 - 10:22 PM.

[Brother-serpent Tylydox]

Does it say why so many Chaos Legions got suddenly together in one place?  Also any Alpha Legion info would be welcomed.

[Sonoftherubric21]

 

For those who care (me), Kor Phaeron does feature in Faith & Fury's narrative, he's not just directing the fleet from afar. The big man finally has his debut in 40k.

Well how about that.

 

Now we just need Erebus to reappear too, and with Lorgar being active as per the CSM Codex, the Three Amigos will be on the loose again and GW can release a new triumvirate.

 

 

I would love that on many different levels. 

 

I hope that Kor is the eventual figure we get for Word Bearers when the time comes. (total conjecture on my part but it follows same pattern as the loyalist releases) 

[Lagrath]

For anyone interested, I did an in-depth review (on my Chaos-focused YouTube channel) of the new rules and what I think are the best new abilities and tricks for Chaos:

 

Edited by Lagrath, 17 November 2019 - 08:24 PM.

[helterskelter]

Host raptorial night lords detachment, jump pack chaos lord with the spoopy murder sword relic or a thunder hammer, a block of Khornate raptors and warp talons.
On the drop, 3d6 charge strat for the warp talons +2 from HR for tagging all the things, nope someone's aura ability say feirros or that tau overwatch thingy, let's get cheeky and drop something into cover near the lord for +4 (+2/+2) to charge with the strat for charging from cover in addition.
Throw a daemon prince as the main warlord in a different detachment with the slaanesh daemon claws and d3 attacks trait, and this spoopy boy can get up to 14 attacks on the charge or bare minimum he gets the same as he did if he didn't have the shenanigans. Lob diabolic strength on him because you're that guy.

Yeah I'm definitely happy with this book, even if it makes CSM a little hungry for CP most folks can get out a battalion and another little detachment

[Charlo]

So this book and a lack of Doctrines/ updated tactics for Chaos makes me realise one thing:

Chaos are the Galaxy Brain faction.

No, really.

You don't have any restrictions to stick to single legions across the army, so you're supposed to bring a rag tag warband of utter bastards to utilize all their dirty tricks at once. Just like Abaddon, you are the Warmaster, moving all your little pawns in place to achieve your objectives, except sometimes Abaddon is also *your* pawn

So go out there, get your Nightlords raptors trapping big guns while yours are IW havoc's that cannot be seen through a teeming mass of bodies. Then your opponents Knight Blows up and murders his screen because YOU. ARE. ALPHARIUS.

Edited by Charlo, 17 November 2019 - 12:28 PM.

[Slave to Darkness]

 

 

Now we just need Erebus to reappear too, and with Lorgar being active as per the CSM Codex, the Three Amigos will be on the loose again and GW can release a new triumvirate.

 

If they did that I would sell everybodys first born to get my hands on a box

[Aztek]

Host raptorial night lords detachment, jump pack chaos lord with the spoopy murder sword relic or a thunder hammer, a block of Khornate raptors and warp talons.
On the drop, 3d6 charge strat for the warp talons +2 from HR for tagging all the things, nope someone's aura ability say feirros or that tau overwatch thingy, let's get cheeky and drop something into cover near the lord for +4 (+2/+2) to charge with the strat for charging from cover in addition.
Throw a daemon prince as the main warlord in a different detachment with the slaanesh daemon claws and d3 attacks trait, and this spoopy boy can get up to 14 attacks on the charge or bare minimum he gets the same as he did if he didn't have the shenanigans. Lob diabolic strength on him because you're that guy.

Yeah I'm definitely happy with this book, even if it makes CSM a little hungry for CP most folks can get out a battalion and another little detachment

Same feelings here!

 

I'm going with a Host Raptorial detachment with 2 units of Raptors and a unit of Warp Talons. 2 Chaos Lords with Jump Packs, and a Sorcerer with Jump Pack for Diabolic Strength and Death Hex. One with the Slaanesh Daemon Claws and Murderous Reputation for hopefully 11 attacks, MW on 6's, the other as cheap as possible but with the +2 inch charge bubble warlord trait and the Vox Daemonicus. Oh yeah and 9 Atramentar with Chain-fists cause I love them. Idea is Warp Talons go in first with a 7 inch 3d6(strat) charge to absorb the Overwatch, then the rest, but making sure to get Vox Daemonicus captain close to a character aura if I can. Khorne Atramentar hopefully being put in a terrain piece so they use the strat for a 7 inch rerollable charge Then the rest just blender whatever they come into contact with, and of course We Have Come For You when they try to fall back and shoot this big melee blob.

 

All while Vox Sceaming at whoever the most important character is(If Vox Daemonicus guy can't reach on the charge). I can literally screech at my opponent's Guilliman to make him stop. I am also happy with this book as a mono-Night Lord player

[MegaVolt87]

When you see possibilities for legion soups again. 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=lBdnti4_UUg

Edited by MegaVolt87, 17 November 2019 - 11:40 PM.

[Medjugorje]

somebody who knows anything about the lore in PA2 so far?

[Excessus]

The story will continue down in the Chaos subforum:

 

http://www.bolterand...chaos-factions/