Gene-Wrought Might and Duellists

[Dumah]

Simple question really: do they stack?

 

Duellists: 

When resolving an attack made with a melee weapon by a model with this tactic against an INFANTRY or BIKER unit, an unmodified hit roll of 6 automatically scores a hit and successfully wounds the target (do not make a wound roll).

 

Gene-Wrought Might:

Use this Stratagem in the Fight phase, when a PRIMARIS INFANTRY unit from your army is chosen to fight with. Until the end of that phase, when resolving an attack made with a melee weapon by a model in that unit, an unmodified hit roll of 6 automatically scores a hit and successfully wounds the target (do not make a wound roll).

[dode74]

They do not say "additional", they say "a hit".  I would say no.

[BluejayJunior]

No they do not stack. Both rules have you skip a step in the resolving attacks sequence, they do not generate any additional hits/wounds. 

[Dumah]

A crying shame, that. I had such wonderful thoughts of Incursors scoring 4 auto wounds per 6... Ah well. I'll content myself with 2.

[Tyriks]

I don't think that would work anyway since Incursors score bonus hits with their guns and the above rules both specify melee weapons.

[Dumah]

Incursors score bonus hits with their paired combat blades. You may be confusing them with Infiltrators.

[Slasher956]

FAQ, main rulebook page 11 top of left hand side

 

 

 

Q: Some abilities can cause extra hits or wounds on a specific roll e.g. ‘Each hit roll of 6 scores 2 hits instead of 1’ and ‘Each hit roll of 6 scores 1 additional hit on the target’. Are these abilities cumulative?

A: It depends on the exact wording of the rule in question. Rules that ‘score 2 (or more) hits instead of 1’ are not cumulative. Rules that ‘score 1 (or more) additional hits’ are cumulative. Here are some examples to show how these rules interact:

1. If a model is affected by two different rules that say that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 2 hits instead of 1’ then a hit roll of 6 will still only result in 2 hits being scored against the target unit.

2. If a model is affected by two different rules that say that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 1 additional hit‘ on the target, then a hit roll of 6 will result in 3 hits being scored against the target unit.

3. If a model is affected by two different rules, one that says that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 2 hits instead of 1’ and one that says that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 1 additional hit‘ against the target, then a hit roll of 6 will result in 3 hits being scored against the target unit.

[Dumah]

 

FAQ, main rulebook page 11 top of left hand side

 

 

 

Q: Some abilities can cause extra hits or wounds on a specific roll e.g. ‘Each hit roll of 6 scores 2 hits instead of 1’ and ‘Each hit roll of 6 scores 1 additional hit on the target’. Are these abilities cumulative?

A: It depends on the exact wording of the rule in question. Rules that ‘score 2 (or more) hits instead of 1’ are not cumulative. Rules that ‘score 1 (or more) additional hits’ are cumulative. Here are some examples to show how these rules interact:

1. If a model is affected by two different rules that say that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 2 hits instead of 1’ then a hit roll of 6 will still only result in 2 hits being scored against the target unit.

2. If a model is affected by two different rules that say that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 1 additional hit‘ on the target, then a hit roll of 6 will result in 3 hits being scored against the target unit.

3. If a model is affected by two different rules, one that says that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 2 hits instead of 1’ and one that says that on a hit roll of 6 that attack ‘scores 1 additional hit‘ against the target, then a hit roll of 6 will result in 3 hits being scored against the target unit.

 

 

None of which covers rules that describe "a hit" that results in an automatic wound. But I bow to the logic that if neither rule specifies "additional hits" or "additional wounds" then it can't be cumulative.

Edited November 5, 2019 by Dumah

[Slasher956]

Sorry hit post too early... ment to put something to explain why I quoted that FAQ...

 

Basically It says in the question that abilities that cause wounds on a specific roll (which your two abilities do, they auto wound on the 'to hit roll of a natural 6') work like this....

 

now the examples are only on hits generating more hits or attack rolls because when that FAQ entry was written that was all that was out there