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We are working with Q Workshop to bring you custom Bolter & Chainsword dice. These will be 16mm D6 custom designed for members of the site.

You, the members, have a say in what the dice will look like. Most aspects of the dice appearance will be determined by poll - majority rules*.

There are a few limiting factors:
  • Imagery will be generic and relevant to the B&C.
  • Dice colors will be red, black, and white. A few additional colors will also be available (see Dice Cost below).
This dice run is establishing the baseline for future runs, so the design that we finalize this time around will be considered the "standard" B&C dice. We'll offer these dice periodically (probably every other year at least), offering red, black, and white each time, with different additional colors each time.

The "standard" B&C colors can be seen in the image below:

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Yes, that's the original Legio mini-me of me painted way back in 2002 (I was experimenting with the red highlighting, it didn't come out as good on the mini as it looked in my head when I planned it). The black armour and red embellishments were key. At that time, the left pauldron featured bone lettering (most of us used the then-new metal Deathwatch shoulder pads that had recently been released) and the chest eagle was bone. We've since changed from bone to white, though the left pauldron has changed from bone to red. The current color scheme can be seen in the Legio Bolter & Chainsword Insignium (scroll down to the bottom of the first post).

You can see some examples of dice from previous runs below:

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(First run on the far left, the middle four showing the second run, and one of the designs from the third run on the far right)

You can see the other designs from the third run here. We had three designs that year. One design featured a skull silhouette with a number on the forehead (1-6). The other two designs featured skull pips for 1-5, with either the B&C logo in silhouette or the skull and cross design for the 6.

DICE COST
The cost of each die will depend upon a few factors, the most important of which being the number of custom faces (we're getting all six faces customized) and the number of dice in each batch. Each different color combination counts as a different batch - so the red dice with white markings are one batch, the black dice with white markings are another batch, etc. This is the reason for limiting the additional colors. We'll try to cycle through the additional colors so that we eventually get to everybody's favorites.

HOW THIS WILL WORK
  • We'll develop the design. The majority of this will be by public poll, each poll covering a few aspects of the dice. Each poll will run for a few days - less than a week.
  • Once we've developed our design, I'll work with Q Workshop to finalize the design so that it works within their manufacturing requirements.
  • After we have a final design, I'll present that to you along with the color combinations that we'll be offering. What I'll need from you is color combinations and quantities. We'll probably let that run for a month or so in order to give people time to figure out what they can afford (and so that no one feels rushed into making a hasty decision).
  • Once I have everyone's "order" I'll get a final quote from Q Workshop. Costs will vary depending upon the quantities of each color combination being ordered. I'll also have to figure out shipping costs.
  • Once I know the final cost for each person's order, I'll present those costs and members will submit their payments.
  • Q Workshop's portion of the payment will be sent, at which point they'll being manufacturing the dice.
  • The finished dice will be sent to me, at which point I'll ship them to the members that order them.
Note that neither the B&C nor the dice run organizers profit from these dice runs - the costs will be limited to what Q Workshop charges and shipping and handling.




* We're not going to let the tyranny of the majority limit things forever, though. Periodically, we'll have additional B&C dice runs that will feature special designs. For example, I'm planning next year's dice run based on the design options that we're not exercising this time around. We might do this every other year, running the standard B&C dice one year, then a special design the next year, then back to the standard B&C dice, and so on.
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Poll 1 ran from 26 October through 30 October. There were two elements for which members could vote. The first element was for either pips or numbers on the 1-5 faces. The second element was for either normal pips (dots) or skull pips if pips won the first vote.

Outcome:

Pips (60) won over Numbers (13)
Skulls (52) won over Normal Pips (21)

Edited by Brother Tyler, 08 November 2019 - 12:12 AM.
Outcome

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Poll 2 ran from 30 October through 4 November. Members voted for the orientation of the designs - either standard or diagonal.

Outcome:

Standard (48) won over Diagonal (8)

There was also a poll to see if members would buy the dice if they didn't get their way, but that doesn't really matter (I'm not sure what I was thinking when I posted that question - five minutes in the pain glove for me).

Edited by Brother Tyler, 08 November 2019 - 12:12 AM.
Outcome

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Poll 3 ran from 4 November through 7 November. Members voted whether or not to include additional decorations on the 1-5 faces.

Outcome:

No Borders (30) won over Borders (24)

As a result of the first three polls, the 1-5 faces will tentatively appear as below:
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The appearance will be finalized after coordination with Q Workshop.

Edited by Brother Tyler, 08 November 2019 - 12:35 AM.
Outcome

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Poll 4 ran from 7 November through 10 November. Members voted for the basic concept of the design on the 6 face.

Choices:

Skull (29) / Skull and Crossed Bones (6) / Skull in Circle with Bones (51)

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Edited by Brother Tyler, 10 November 2019 - 11:29 PM.
Outcome

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Poll 5 ran from November 19 through November 24 and members voted for the basic design on the 6 face.

Chices:

Silhouette (36) / Outline (0) / Hybrid #1 (9) / Hybrid #2 (10)

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Edited by Brother Tyler, 24 November 2019 - 12:55 PM.
Outcome

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Poll 6 ran from 13 December through 19 December and members voted on the final design for the "6" face.

Choices:

Logo only (49) / Logo with motto (18)

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Edited by Brother Tyler, 20 December 2019 - 12:09 PM.
Outcome

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Poll 7 ran from 21 December through 7 January and members voted for the color combinations that will be available.

Choices:

Black, Red, and White
There were two combination options, each offering a variation on these colors.

Option 1:
Black die with white designs, red die with black designs, and white die with red designs
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Option 2:
Black die with red designs, red die with white designs, and white die with black designs
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Sandy
Sandy is the closest color to the bone that we used in the original Legio scheme. The choices here fell to the color of the designs. You were able to choose from bordowy, black, red, and brown (as shown from left to right).
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Wildcard
Our fifth color was more of a wildcard. You were able to choose between orange (our recently retired administrator, Kurgan the Lurker, founded the Cult of Orange), silver (a common spot color on Legio minis), and translucent (a pretty neutral option)(as shown from left to right).
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If the majority had chosen translucent as our fifth die color, there would have been a further choice for the color of the designs. You may have chosen red or black.

Edited by Brother Tyler, 08 January 2020 - 11:31 AM.

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Poll 7 Results:

Black die with red designs, red die with white designs, white die with black designs.
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Sandy die with bordowy designs.
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Orange die with black designs.
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Status update (because I've been really bad about communicating this - I'll submit myself to the pain glove for a few minutes):

 

I am in the process of finalizing the graphic file for the dice manufacturer. Once that is done, we'll get initial information on costs and our logistics.

 

Then we'll open the doors for ordering dice.


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Sweet, I have misplaced my dice somewhere so now I can rock up to games with some sweet B&C dice.

 

B&C tape measure would be pretty good as well, maybe... Oneday. Hint hint. 


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It's about time for me to invest in some BnC dice. My patch looks good on my bag so I should fill it with out fresh gear

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Nice, Brother Tyler, can't wait for some more details on the dice. 


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Cool! I need better doce than my old gw box. They roll horribly

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Cant wait for these!
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We're now taking preliminary "orders" (i.e., I need to know how many of each combination you want). See this post for details.

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We're now taking preliminary "orders" (i.e., I need to know how many of each combination you want). See this post for details.

Did you want the preliminary here or by PM?

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PM, please.

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Now final taking orders HERE.


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