Sete Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) It's not Draco Crusade. And like I presumed, it's a random Castellan, Helbrecth and Grimaldus are not involved. Note that the BT is not a primaris apparently. Edit: Rank Edited November 9, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Still, seems the one at the head of the crusade is a Castellan. Also, Talledus is indeed the world's name Sete and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyliadan Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 It's not Draco Crusade. And like I presumed, it's a random Castellan, Helbrecth and Grimaldus are not involved. Note that the BT is not a primaris apparently. Mh from behind, his backpack really looks like a primaris one to me, but otherwise the art is too stylised to be certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Carpenter Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I believe he called himself Castellan Dramos. So not Draco. Funnilly yesterday I grabbed a pile of old wd's from the attic and in wd313 he is presented in all his glory! The emperor truly watches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 It could be either really. The backpack does indeed look like the standard primaris one, and the tubes on the gorget do look somewhat like those on the primaris chaplain : https://www.games-workshop.com/fr-FR/Space-Marines-Primaris-Chaplain The shape of the gorget with a slit is not too far removed from that of this lieutenant : https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/06/5th-oct-500th-store-a-global-celebrationgw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-1/ On the plus side, if this guy turns out to be a primaris, we're now sure we can bling them up with tabards and chains. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson cowboy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 It's not Draco Crusade. And like I presumed, it's a random Castellan, Helbrecth and Grimaldus are not involved. Note that the BT is not a primaris apparently. Mh from behind, his backpack really looks like a primaris one to me, but otherwise the art is too stylised to be certain. from the back view in the very start of the clip it’s a primaris back pack because of the round middle plate at least that the only real defining feature that he his primaris....That I see at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I believe he called himself Castellan Dramos. So not Draco. Funnilly yesterday I grabbed a pile of old wd's from the attic and in wd313 he is presented in all his glory! The emperor truly watches Did you mean Dramos? He was already mentioned before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Where? I don't think I've heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Whether he is or not primaris, characters displayed on the videos do not translate to actual models. I'm curious to see of the campaign book will have some BT primaris models displayed. As far as I'm aware Dramos is a new Castellan. Notice that Dramos is remarkably close to Draco. Draco eventually became a generic castellan, maybe Dramos will be our new generic castellan model eventually. Edited November 9, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IHOGw8iing So Battle brother Berard of the 'Rutherian Crusade' - led by Castellan Dramos to defend the 'Talledeus System'. Interesting, not sure if these are characters/crusade that we've heard of before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'd be really pleased to see some GW in house Black Templars. I haven't seen any Primaris painted for the studio army all edition. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson cowboy Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) I'd be really pleased to see some GW in house Black Templars. I haven't seen any Primaris painted for the studio army all edition. yeah since the introduction of 8th the only primaris templars I seen on display from a games workshop perspective/article/what have you....was just a white dwarf issue on a painting tutorial and that’s it Edited November 9, 2019 by Crimson cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 The last teaser is the first we heard of talledus as far as I know. Just happy to see BT represented tbh BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilamandaros Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Also interesting that we'll be fighting alongside the Salamanders again, as in Helsreach. I wonder if the same clash between chapter ideologies will come to the fore again. If those big green softies start trying to save civilians when there's an opportunity to destroy traitor marines...they may not get off so lightly as before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 It could be either really. On the plus side, if this guy turns out to be a primaris, we're now sure we can bling them up with tabards and chains. Not really either, the BT guy seen from the front has the same cowls on thrusters every Mk X backpack has. The gorget is also something only found in VIII and X. And "now"? Primaris BT were literally among the first primaris art ever... Whether he is or not primaris, characters displayed on the videos do not translate to actual models. What? Literally every single Death Guard character was present in the first video featuring them. To the point people pieced how their plague surgeons and potion shamans looked like before minis were released. Ditto with Thousand Son release. And since this is the same artist who did the above two videos, well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) I do not remember those those videos, but it's all but confirmed we are not getting models at the moment. In the future? Maybe. In part this is why I'm interested on the models present of the book, might show us a surprise or two. That artwork of BT never translated into a model, and as such I will remain sceptic. Edit: Not to mention it's just an Initiate. Edited November 9, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Another Castellan leading a Crusade, not unheard of but interesting. Im glad we are getting a bit more stuff from GW for the next book, maybe we'll get more info later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyliadan Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 I'd be really pleased to see some GW in house Black Templars. I haven't seen any Primaris painted for the studio army all edition There's always the gorgeous work by Maxime Corbeil, who's one of their own : https://www.facebook.com/maxime.corbeil.3/photos?lst=706562402%3A100000878310787%3A1573342038 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) The main deining feature of Primaris backpacks is the rounded reactor housing on the back. While it looks like the artwork of this Berard has just that, it's drawn with 8 studs instead of the typical 4. If the armor was tacticus pattern, a second defining feature would be that the ball shaped exhaust ports on the sides would have an added layer of armor on top, instead of being completely round (though primaris phobos armor also lacks it). Berard's exhaust spheres were completely round from what I could see and since we can rule out his armor being phobos, that'd instead suggest classic marine. All in all mixed signals, I'd lean towards him being a classic, but since it wasn't the most detailed artwork we've seen it could turn out to be either. In summary, the artwork is pretty unreliable. Edited November 10, 2019 by Reinhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Carpenter Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I believe he called himself Castellan Dramos. So not Draco. Funnilly yesterday I grabbed a pile of old wd's from the attic and in wd313 he is presented in all his glory! The emperor truly watches Did you mean Dramos? He was already mentioned before?Not Dramos. In rhe wd were the original Draco stats.Sorry. Ill try and be more specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irbis Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I do not remember those those videos, but it's all but confirmed we are not getting models at the moment. That artwork of BT never translated into a model, and as such I will remain sceptic. We might not get one at the moment, but this is one of most trusted GW artists, and I am pretty sure any potential new Cardinal or BT primaris miniature will look exactly like on this video due to artist's excellent track record when it comes to unreleased stuff drawn from GW preview materials. And technically BT primaris from the art I mentioned was just a modified lieutenant, so the mini was available from the start too While it looks like the artwork of this Berard has just that, it's drawn with 8 studs instead of the typical 4. So what? Artist just added some studs to make him a bit more detailed. You can also see studs on his pads he is missing on his front shot. I have no idea how you can go from "a few extra studs" to "let's ignore feature found in no other PA mark". That's a complete non sequitur. If the armor was tacticus pattern, a second defining feature would be that the ball shaped exhaust ports on the sides would have an added layer of armor on top You mean, the layer he clearly has in his front shot, along with close to a dozen visual cues indicating Mk X? :rolleyes: I just went and looked at all of my Mk VIII minis, they all have round gorgets. Crescent gorget he has is again, Mk X only thing. painting.for.my.sanity and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share Posted November 10, 2019 (edited) Interesting analysis. While I remain unconvinced by the first artwork interpretation, you make interesting points on this one. By any chance do you have the name of the artist? Edited November 10, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 While it looks like the artwork of this Berard has just that, it's drawn with 8 studs instead of the typical 4. So what? Artist just added some studs to make him a bit more detailed. You can also see studs on his pads he is missing on his front shot. I have no idea how you can go from "a few extra studs" to "let's ignore feature found in no other PA mark". That's a complete non sequitur. ONE feature. It may be that this one feature is because the artist didn't know betterr or got it wrong, or you're right he got it right, but then royally screws up next: If the armor was tacticus pattern, a second defining feature would be that the ball shaped exhaust ports on the sides would have an added layer of armor on top You mean, the layer he clearly has in his front shot, along with close to a dozen visual cues indicating Mk X? I just went and looked at all of my Mk VIII minis, they all have round gorgets. Crescent gorget he has is again, Mk X only thing. Given that no primaris backpack has 'cowls' that look anything like that: No? A little reminder of how they're really meant to look, at least what I'm talking about: Notice how Berard's sphere's are completely smooth? Means either he's old marine, or in either phobos or omnis pattern (a lot of other details speak against that though), or some hitherto not revealed armor pattern. Or you know, the artist screwed this bit up. Probably the easiest explanation. It also bears to mind that what you indicate as cowls, is a feature wholly absent on all Primaris backpacks... It IS reminiscent of the 'segments' on another style of backpack: But still, the easy answer is probably that the artist got a few details wrong... If only I had pointed this out earlier In summary, the artwork is pretty unreliable. Oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 I am very sure this is a Primaris Marine. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Just an observation. They said a castellan would lead templars from a crusade. He isnt leading a whole crusade, he is being split off from a crusade to deal with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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