Seraphim / Zephyrim basing ideas

[ZaelART]

Just wondering how people base their Seraphim?

 

I'm not a huge fan of flying bases, so I was thinking about modelling mine jumping off of munitorum crates or barrels.

 

Anybody done similar with the old models? I would be interested to see how they look. I have a couple of the old chicks with hand flamers and figured this might help them blend in a little.

[Lemondish]

The Space Marine assault squad kit has a selection of bits that go on bases to recreate the jumping off rubble image. I might consider those.

[tvih]

I've used resin sprue blocks for jump infantry bases before, for orks and marines. For the metal seraphim though it doesn't really work in my opinion given how the legs are posed - it looks more like the model is tripping on the obstacle. I must say for the new seraphim seen so far the legs are posed so much in the opposite way - very dynamic, near-horizontal - that it would probably look off there too.

[RolandTHTG]

Looking at them,I think you could do some good "leaping off a wall" poses. They aren't so much leaping off the tops of things as maneuvering on the side of them. Making them look like they are doing video game style wall jumps would be the way to model in my opinion.

[WickedJester1013]

Yeah I was also wondering what people do about saint Celestine’s based.

[Slasher956]

Going to put base extenders on it eventually ...I mean it’s a 28mm base that she’s been on for over 15 years since I brought her :p

[Waking Dreamer]

Do you think people will have issues if you take them off their flying stems as modelling for advantage?

 

Even if you have them leaping of scenic bases, they would be only be half the height from the plastic stems.

[tvih]

Huh. I didn't think about it until you mentioned it, but yeah, those Seraphim are very high up in the air. Mostly it concerns me in terms of stability. Can't easily place them in any sort of uneven terrain, since even a small tilt will probably tip the balance, even being a light plastic miniature.

[Waking Dreamer]

I was thinking of having around 20 in a game but to transport them on those plastic stems would be very inconvenient.  I was planning on putting them closer to their base for more compact/easier transportation, and as mentioned, simply moving/positioning them around the table would be much easier. But since officially they come with tall flying stems now, do people think you could get hassled for making them lower and easier to hide behind terrain?

[Slasher956]

follow the lead of Infinty... have a 2D printout of one of the seraphim on the full size base that you can hold up behind your models if people start going 'if you hadnt modeled a smaller base I'd be able to shoot'

[Dread]

Hope this helps. Through the years I've played, the one thing that has been constant, is they're your models and you can do as you please. For instance, my metal wraith guard were made on 25 mm bases and for years after plastic came out I left them that way until in 7th ed and blast templates then they got mounted on bigger bases. If I use plague demons in 40k, they're on square bases, not gonna risk breaking them just to be put on the "new" thing. I've seen armies with land speeders that the stem got cut down so they're lower. Ultimately it's your decision. I still add cork basing to a lot of my models which makes them a quarter to half an inch higher. Just really makes them look cool. I, like many others, am not a fan of the new jump bases and may do something similar as you suggested, but for asthetics not game mechanics. Good luck and anxious to see what you decide on. Edited November 28, 2019 by Dread

[tvih]

I prefer the new flight stem looks-wise to the metal tabs the old Seraphim had, that's for sure. But at least for the marine Inceptors the stem's attachment to the flight pack was absolutely, laughably inadequate. I fixed that by drilling a bigger hole and shoving the stem up there where the sun don't shine, which slightly lowered the model flight height but it stays in place. I guess I'll soon find out whether or not the same problem exists with the new Sisters.

[Lemondish]

I prefer the new flight stem looks-wise to the metal tabs the old Seraphim had, that's for sure. But at least for the marine Inceptors the stem's attachment to the flight pack was absolutely, laughably inadequate. I fixed that by drilling a bigger hole and shoving the stem up there where the sun don't shine, which slightly lowered the model flight height but it stays in place. I guess I'll soon find out whether or not the same problem exists with the new Sisters.

Very true. Unlike the Inceptors, these units actually look like they can and should be flying around

[tvih]

But if the attachment is bad, it's probably harder to fix given how slim the Sisters' jump packs are!

[tvih]

The attachment is indeed simply to the bottom of the jump pack, no special "slot" or anything. Given these are lighter than Inceptors, I suppose it may just be enough.

[Kastor Krieg]

For those tall jumper models, glue a heavy flat metal object (like a 1" round screw washer) under the 32mm base. It works wonders for stability even on slopes or uneven terrain.

[Lemondish]

For those tall jumper models, glue a heavy flat metal object (like a 1" round screw washer) under the 32mm base. It works wonders for stability even on slopes or uneven terrain.

Could glue a magnet and use that for transport too.

[ValourousHeart]

I was hoping that the Seraphim would be held up by streams like Celestine and the Gemini are, instead of the flight stands.

 

Was wondering if anyone had a recommendation for how to duplicate that effect?

 

I'm curious if these vines could do the trick.

[WickedJester1013]

For those vines, they will not work by them selves. Very thin, but you could pine them with maybe a piece of metal and cover it with the vines, but not sure how that would look

[Ahistorian]

I was hoping that the Seraphim would be held up by streams like Celestine and the Gemini are, instead of the flight stands.

 

Was wondering if anyone had a recommendation for how to duplicate that effect?

 

I'm curious if these vines could do the trick.

You could maybe cut the streamers off of Stormcast flyboys... There were some in all the AoS 1e starter sets, they must be all over eBay.

[Lord_Caerolion]

Those vines will not work, they're made of a more flexible plastic, to let you bend the vines how you want them. They wouldn't be able to hold anything up by themselves.

[Ahistorian]

I suppose with some brass wire or piano wire you could do *something* with the vines, but I think they'd just look like you wrapped the vines around a homemade flight stand