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Oh they also talked about a strat to make a exocrine count as stationary.

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If I ignore the blood Angels keyword then this is pretty much codex primaris...
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The table of contents is up:

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It looks like it's more of a Blood Angels supplement all in but name really.



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35 pages for blood angles of which 20ish are codex SM pages reprinted...

So it’s either that or BA players had to buy SM dex, BA dex and this book
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Overall it still looks like 68 pages of blood angels and 12 of nids.



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StrikingScorpion82 has just uploaded his overview of the new PA3 book!

 


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Alright I skipped SS82 video review to the DC Intercessors. Be prepared to be even more underwhelmed, guys.

 

  • Standard equip is the same as regular Intercessors
  • They can take all the Bolt rifle variants same as regular Intercessors
  • one model in 5 can take an auxiliary grenade launcher same as regular Intercessors
  • ONE model can take a chainsword, power fist, thunder hammer or power fist
  • ONE model can take a chainsword or hand flamer
  • No sergeant equivalent

The important take aways here are that the "second melee weapon" is really just a chainsword, not a TH or such, the unit has max LD of 7 because there's no Sergeant equivalent and finally, the most ridiculous thing, a DC Intercessor with Thunderhammer has the EXACT same amount of attacks than an Intercessor Sergeant with Thunderhammer and after the first round of combat even one less since black rage runs out while the sergeant buff doesn't.


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Will keep my spare 10 man intercessors unbuilt for now then. May build my 10 Reivers instead. Just ordered Mephy though :-)

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Overall it still looks like 68 pages of blood angels and 12 of nids.

No, once you actually remove the datasheets for the regular SM stuff, BA only get about as much "new and updated" content as we did, which is still less than C:SM primgenitors got. And, same as us, they have to pay more for it.
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So the update to the chapter tactic is +1 to the charge roll. Thoughts?



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Alright I skipped SS82 video review to the DC Intercessors. Be prepared to be even more underwhelmed, guys.

 

  • Standard equip is the same as regular Intercessors
  • They can take all the Bolt rifle variants same as regular Intercessors
  • one model in 5 can take an auxiliary grenade launcher same as regular Intercessors
  • ONE model can take a chainsword, power fist, thunder hammer or power fist
  • ONE model can take a chainsword or hand flamer
  • No sergeant equivalent

The important take aways here are that the "second melee weapon" is really just a chainsword, not a TH or such, the unit has max LD of 7 because there's no Sergeant equivalent and finally, the most ridiculous thing, a DC Intercessor with Thunderhammer has the EXACT same amount of attacks than an Intercessor Sergeant with Thunderhammer and after the first round of combat even one less since black rage runs out while the sergeant buff doesn't.

 

I'd still be all over the option to take more than single cc weapon in an intercessor squad, but don't even get that.



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Alright I skipped SS82 video review to the DC Intercessors. Be prepared to be even more underwhelmed, guys.

 

  • Standard equip is the same as regular Intercessors
  • They can take all the Bolt rifle variants same as regular Intercessors
  • one model in 5 can take an auxiliary grenade launcher same as regular Intercessors
  • ONE model can take a chainsword, power fist, thunder hammer or power fist
  • ONE model can take a chainsword or hand flamer
  • No sergeant equivalent

The important take aways here are that the "second melee weapon" is really just a chainsword, not a TH or such, the unit has max LD of 7 because there's no Sergeant equivalent and finally, the most ridiculous thing, a DC Intercessor with Thunderhammer has the EXACT same amount of attacks than an Intercessor Sergeant with Thunderhammer and after the first round of combat even one less since black rage runs out while the sergeant buff doesn't.

 

I'd still be all over the option to take more than single cc weapon in an intercessor squad, but don't even get that.

 

 

I know right. It's like kicking them when they were already on the ground.


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WE HAVE VETERAN INTERCESSORS!!! I AM SO HAPPY


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Blood Angels 3rd Company Wins 25 Draws 5 Losses 13

Heresy Blood Angels: Wins 4 Draws 0 Losses 2
Blood Angels 4th company: Wins 10 Draws 3 Losses 4

 

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WE HAVE VETERAN INTERCESSORS!!! I AM SO HAPPY

 

Who needs DC Intercessors (in the current form) anyway! :D 


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So the update to the chapter tactic is +1 to the charge roll. Thoughts?

It's amazing? Doing jumps of joy? Thank the Angel?

 

Super excited for it to be honest.

 

 

 

WE HAVE VETERAN INTERCESSORS!!! I AM SO HAPPY

 

Who needs DC Intercessors (in the current form) anyway! biggrin.png

 

 

Sadly this looks to be the case. Just gonna stick with regular Intercessors I suppose!


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WE HAVE VETERAN INTERCESSORS!!! I AM SO HAPPY

 

So would these intercessors have gold helmets, if we follow BA codex paint scheme?


Edited by happyslugger, 30 November 2019 - 03:25 PM.

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WE HAVE VETERAN INTERCESSORS!!! I AM SO HAPPY

 

So would these intercessors have gold helmets, if we follow BA codex paint scheme?

 

 

I would say yes.


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WE HAVE VETERAN INTERCESSORS!!! I AM SO HAPPY


So would these intercessors have gold helmets, if we follow BA codex paint scheme?

Yep!

Going to look at doing a unit shortly :D

Primaris Blood Angels: Wins 4 Draws 0 Losses 2

Blood Angels 3rd Company Wins 25 Draws 5 Losses 13

Heresy Blood Angels: Wins 4 Draws 0 Losses 2
Blood Angels 4th company: Wins 10 Draws 3 Losses 4

 

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WE HAVE VETERAN INTERCESSORS!!! I AM SO HAPPY


So would these intercessors have gold helmets, if we follow BA codex paint scheme?

Yep!

Going to look at doing a unit shortly biggrin.png

 

 

May do a 5 man unit of these and 5 man DC unit....


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I saw points values in that video - does this mean we don’t have to buy chapter approved, or is it only for the new stuff?

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I saw points values in that video - does this mean we don’t have to buy chapter approved, or is it only for the new stuff?


I believe it is only for the new stuff but I am prepared to be mistaken. There are other changes (like Inceptor points drops) that don't fit in PA3 so I am assuming they will be in CA19.
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So the update to the chapter tactic is +1 to the charge roll. Thoughts?


Positive.

We hit hard in combat and will hit even harder now. The issue has been getting there reliably. +1" doesn't sound like a lot but it makes quite a bit of difference. The odds of making a 9" charge from Reserves is only 28% (48% with a reroll). The chance of making an 8" charge is significantly higher at 42% (82% if you have rerolls).

It is enough to make charging out of Reserves a viable tactic, even without DOA. Even relatively small squads can now do serious damage. Take 5 DC with JP, CS and BP (which have got a 10% price drop to boot). If they drop in from Reserves with Lemartes on Turn 3, they will make their charge 82% of the time and will hit with 30 attacks with full rerolls and +1 to Wound. Imagine 3 squads dropping in and multi-charging yet costing only 90 points per squad. Chuck a power fist in each squad and it is still under 100 points but can threaten pretty much anything. Even small cheap squads can make amazing clean-up crews on Turn 3.
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It was as though Sanguinius gleamed with pale light, his face white, eyes becoming blood-red, surrounded by the golden crown of flowing hair. Guilliman had witnessed glimpses of of his brother's wrath before, but had never seen the true Blood Angel unleashed. Sanguinius surged forward on alabaster wings, half a meter from the floor, whiteness streaming from him like flames.




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