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[Suzuteo]

Aside from Manipulus going down to 65 points, can anyone please tell me what is happening to AdMech? We're so sensitive to point changes right now...

[Lemondish]

Galatus is 135 pts. Using progressive High pass filters in Photoshop and a Hard Light blend the text is barely legible. The Achillus is the 130 pt one.

CSI ENHANCE

[Zephaniah Adriyen]

 

- Need to know for Death Guard whether Typhus, Poxwalkers, or anything else went down in points. Blighthaulers seem cheaper? So hard to read. Major bummer that Blightlords and Mortarion both didn't go down at all! No real reason to use Blightlords over normal CSM Terminators at about 200 points more for 10!

 

 

• Cultist down 1 point
• Land raider down 20 points
• Terminator lord down 10 point
• Predator down 5 points
• Rhino went up 15 points (edit: too blurry, it could be 65 - which means its down by 5)
• Spawn went down 5 points
• Helbrute went down 20 points
• Malignant plague caster went down 15 points
• Blight haulers went down 15 points
• Possessed went down 3 points
• Poxwalkers went down 2 points
• Sorceror went down 10 points
• Terminator sorcerer down 2 points
• Typhus went down 20 points
• Plaguebearers went up 1 point
• Combi melta went down 4 points
• Entropy cannon went down 5 points
• Plague spewer went down 2 point

 

Some CSM changes that I am reading:

 

No change to Lords Discordant!

Warptalons 19 pts total with wargear

Oblits now 95 ppm

Most Daemon Engines down 10-15 points, including Heldrakes, Maulerfiends, Venomcrawlers

Chaos Thunder Hammers cost 40

Power fists down to 7 pts

 

Warp Talons getting a much needed points drop. Mine get used anyway, but they suck entirely because they're expensive. They also really, really need a bit of extra durability - they're really squishy on the tabletop - but that's less important. If they're fast and cheap, then they're good for targeted clearing of an important enemy Infantry unit. They get good attack count, with AP and reliable wounds, but they're EXPEEEENSIVE.

[STTAB]

Necron page has turned up... still waiting on Guard.

[Medjugorje]

 

 

Ultramarines have been nerfed again unfortunately.

The weakest chapter in the codex gets point hikes on units.

Ah-:cussing-hem.

The Black Templars would like a word...

To be fair Templar’s only real issue is that Crusader squads are overpriced. Our Strategems, Litanies, Relics and WT are all damn solid

 

if you compare them to relics that let reroll everything against one unit, much more characters and a lot more Stratagems (including to have the ability to go into assault doctrine) - the Ultramarines are a bit stronger then Templars !!!

 

There are more competitive builds possible and they have the better Successor chapters because BT dont have ... (although BT have the strongest Primogenitor^^)

Edited by Medjugorje, 29 November 2019 - 06:37 PM.

[CaptainMarsh]

Necron page has turned up... still waiting on Guard.

Only two things I know for Guard are that the Infantry Squad is unchanged and Scions are 7 ppm.

Edited by CaptainMarsh, 29 November 2019 - 07:10 PM.

[Dark Shepherd]

Necron page has turned up... still waiting on Guard.

Where was that?

[Boyadventurer]

 

Necron page has turned up... still waiting on Guard.

Where was that?

 

Not sure if we're sharing the pages here, but its on /r/warhammercompetitive

[Lord Nord]

Did we ever see any Knights adjustments other than the Armiger/War Dog?

[Medjugorje]

I thought Armiger -10 in the official warhammer communtiy webside

[adreal]

Have the chaos space marine pages been leaked?

[Dark Shepherd]

Necron page has turned up... still waiting on Guard.

Where was that?

Not sure if we're sharing the pages here, but its on /r/warhammercompetitive

Thank you sir

Whoever leaked first batch selectively knew what they were doing to set tongues wagging

[Marshal Arthur]

Any news on Black Templar updates? I hear our Crusader Squads haven't dropped to 12 like all other Tactical equivalents and wonder if our characters were changed.

[Gaz1858]

Any news on Black Templar updates? I hear our Crusader Squads haven't dropped to 12 like all other Tactical equivalents and wonder if our characters were changed.

BT are in the new faith and fury not CA

[Marshal Arthur]

 

Any news on Black Templar updates? I hear our Crusader Squads haven't dropped to 12 like all other Tactical equivalents and wonder if our characters were changed.

BT are in the new faith and fury not CA

 

I was referring to the point values of their units. Were the prices of their HQs changed?

[NTaW]

Incomplete Necron points, taken from Fb:

 

[Medjugorje]

 

Any news on Black Templar updates? I hear our Crusader Squads haven't dropped to 12 like all other Tactical equivalents and wonder if our characters were changed.

BT are in the new faith and fury not CA

 

it was about point changes... 

[Dark Shepherd]

NZ pre orders up

CA is pretty much all new/different missions and ways to play.

Claims to have 20 pages of updated Chaos Daemon datasheets (no others mentioned)

[Nemesor Tyriks]

NZ pre orders up
CA is pretty much all new/different missions and ways to play.
Claims to have 20 pages of updated Chaos Daemon datasheets (no others mentioned)

Are the updated data sheets just the ones from the new kits that came out this year? Or new updates?

[Black Blow Fly]

The Ultramarines points are illegible.

[adreal]

The Ultramarines points are illegible.

I think that's because they are making ultramarines illegal for matched play games

[newdigitalGK]

I would give left kidney for full GK points.

[Marshal Valkenhayn]

 

NZ pre orders up
CA is pretty much all new/different missions and ways to play.
Claims to have 20 pages of updated Chaos Daemon datasheets (no others mentioned)

Are the updated data sheets just the ones from the new kits that came out this year? Or new updates?

 

 

I'd like to know this as well. 20 pages worth of sheets is a lot of sheets, and a good chunk of daemon units need a buff. Out of everything I've heard so far this is the most exciting, as I was content with just getting point reductions. I'll keep my hopes down until I know a little more, though.

[Boyadventurer]

 

 

NZ pre orders up
CA is pretty much all new/different missions and ways to play.
Claims to have 20 pages of updated Chaos Daemon datasheets (no others mentioned)

Are the updated data sheets just the ones from the new kits that came out this year? Or new updates?

 

 

I'd like to know this as well. 20 pages worth of sheets is a lot of sheets, and a good chunk of daemon units need a buff. Out of everything I've heard so far this is the most exciting, as I was content with just getting point reductions. I'll keep my hopes down until I know a little more, though.

 

Its 26 pages of datasheets, then the rider says "for certain Chaos Daemon units". The pages of datasheets also include all the non-faction fortifications, so don't necessarily expect every daemon to get an update

[Juggernut]

Hopefully ol’ Bel’akor gets an update.