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Any news on Black Templar updates? I hear our Crusader Squads haven't dropped to 12 like all other Tactical equivalents and wonder if our characters were changed.


BT are in the new faith and fury not CA

 

I was referring to the point values of their units. Were the prices of their HQs changed?

Seriously, guys... F&F had our characters and their points. Why on Terra would you think that CA would change them just a week after F&F came out? Be sensible.


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Any news on Black Templar updates? I hear our Crusader Squads haven't dropped to 12 like all other Tactical equivalents and wonder if our characters were changed.


BT are in the new faith and fury not CA

 

I was referring to the point values of their units. Were the prices of their HQs changed?

Seriously, guys... F&F had our characters and their points. Why on Terra would you think that CA would change them just a week after F&F came out? Be sensible.

 

1. because its GW 

2. because it would be fair 

3. because Assault Marine and Tactical cost 12 and Chaos even 11 - thats abolutly stupid even because other Marines still have stronger rules.

 

(point 2. and 3. are an option just becuse of point 1 - again negative)


Edited by Medjugorje, 30 November 2019 - 01:51 AM.

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Any news on Black Templar updates? I hear our Crusader Squads haven't dropped to 12 like all other Tactical equivalents and wonder if our characters were changed.

BT are in the new faith and fury not CA
I was referring to the point values of their units. Were the prices of their HQs changed?
Seriously, guys... F&F had our characters and their points. Why on Terra would you think that CA would change them just a week after F&F came out? Be sensible.

Because none of the points changed in Faith and Fury but the Champion’s power level went up. In addition it was rumored the Crusader Squads would go down since every other tactical equivalent dropped to 12. When they released the digital data sheets at the release of Space Marine 2.0 there were no changes and everyone said they’d update their points in Faith and Fury. When Faith and Fury came out and there were no point changes everyone said they probably saved any adjustments for Chapter Approved. I understand it seems unreasonable but we were given several reasons to expect point adjustments. Regardless, a simple “I don’t know,” or “I don’t think their points changed” would suffice.

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I can confirm the demon sheets are all the updated ones from this year and previous CA (Horrors, Crushers, New Slannesh units, Nurgle stuff) etc. Nothing new. the Mirror has been nerfed to T5 though.


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I can confirm the demon sheets are all the updated ones from this year and previous CA (Horrors, Crushers, New Slannesh units, Nurgle stuff) etc. Nothing new. the Mirror has been nerfed to T5 though.


So they don't change any of the badly designed daemon datasheets except to nerf one of them *facepalm*

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I can confirm the demon sheets are all the updated ones from this year and previous CA (Horrors, Crushers, New Slannesh units, Nurgle stuff) etc. Nothing new. the Mirror has been nerfed to T5 though.

Are you able to confirm if there's been much Drukhari change please? Thanks in advance :)


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And while you're here, any changes to CSM Legion traits or anything like that? I'm assuming no.

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I can confirm the demon sheets are all the updated ones from this year and previous CA (Horrors, Crushers, New Slannesh units, Nurgle stuff) etc. Nothing new. the Mirror has been nerfed to T5 though.


Do you please have some information on AdMech? (Besides the Manipulus drop)

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I can confirm the demon sheets are all the updated ones from this year and previous CA (Horrors, Crushers, New Slannesh units, Nurgle stuff) etc. Nothing new. the Mirror has been nerfed to T5 though.

The Contorted Epitome has always been T5, so that's not a nerf.  I assume the price didn't change?


Edited by Sersi, 30 November 2019 - 08:21 AM.

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Any news on Deathwatch or Orks?


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So one of the best 40k YouTubers has just uploaded a bunch of videos reviewing ALL the points changes for CA! As well as the new missions and updated rules!

 

Updated Rules from CA:

 

Forgeworld Points Updates:

 

Imperium Points Updates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAD_Saxsb-I

 

Chaos Points Updates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi59mhb4lIg

 

Xenos Points Updates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjnlKxPkHg

 

Enjoy!


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I disagree about him being one of the best 40k youtubers, but I hope someone does a summary so I don't have to watch them all. :D 


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Do you please have some information on AdMech? (Besides the Manipulus drop)

 

 

Electro-Priests -2

Infiltrators -3

Rustalkers -4

Mani -25

Dominus -10

 

And Neutron Laser -10

 

For Knights:

 

Castellan -50

Armiger -15

Gallant +20

Preceptor +5

Canis Rex -50

 

All these are what MWG said on their video.


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Castellan didn't go down. D6 Evolution showed the pages on video. Completely unchanged.


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From WintersSEO's review it appears Slaanesh heralds on chariots are in there, previously this was an index only option. This is very good news.


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Warp talons dropping 5 points per model pretty much makes them an auto include for Night Lords or Chaos Soup armies! Now I want 5 more!


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Show your mercy and he shall one day seek vengeance upon you for petty, imagined slight. Mercy is therefore a weakness; a crime wanting to be born.

Mercy I have long since expunged, from both myself and my legion.

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The Astraeus has come down 100 pts for those of us enamoured with the model. Makes it worth thinking about now? Running at about 620 pts at its highest cost.


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From WintersSEO's review it appears Slaanesh heralds on chariots are in there, previously this was an index only option. This is very good news.

 

Considering they have still been on the box art; or the chariot instructions; for the Slaanesh Start Collecting box since the current codex dropped... IT'S ABOUT TIME. *ahem* Sorry. 



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From WintersSEO's review it appears Slaanesh heralds on chariots are in there, previously this was an index only option. This is very good news.

 

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So glad about that. As long as they also provide the +1S aura that is. :D


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Hit me up when there's gonna be a list of FW point drop available! (For both Astartes kind)

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The Astraeus has come down 100 pts for those of us enamoured with the model. Makes it worth thinking about now? Running at about 620 pts at its highest cost.


Adding in Chapter Tactics and Doctrines it might be usable over a knight. I'm happy about it. Sad the fellblade and falchion are still dead and buried though.

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Could be wrong on some of them...


Entry = CA2019 pts value (value compared to Codex)

/// HQ ///
Chaplain = 72
Chaplain with Jump Pack = 90
Interrogator Chaplain = 80 (-5)
Interrogator Chaplain with Terminator Armour = 100 (-25)
Interrogator Chaplain with Jump Pack = 95 (-8)
Librarian = 80 (-8)
Librarian with Terminator Armour = 100 (-20)
Librarian with Jump Pack = 108 (-4)
Lieutenant = 60
Lieutenant with Jump Pack = 78
Master = 74
Master with Cataphractii Armour = 95 (-31)
Master with Gravis Armour = 90 (-12)
Master with Terminator Armour = 95 (-10)
Master with Jump Pack = 93
Primaris Chaplain = 77 (-12)
Primaris Librarian = 90 (-3)
Primaris Lieutenant = 65 (-2)
Primaris Master = 78 (-9)
Ravenwing Talonmaster = 123
Rhino Primaris = 70
Techmarine = 45

/// FAST ATTACK ///
Assault Squad = 12 (-1)
Assault Squad with Jump Pack = 15 (-1)
Inceptor Squad = 25
Ravenwing Attack Bike Squad = 25 (-10)
Ravenwing Bike Squad = 21 (-4)
Ravenwing Black Knigths = 44 (-2)
Ravenwing Dark Shroud = 128
Ravenwing Land Speeders = 45 (-25)
Ravenwing Land Speeder Vengeance = 90 (-32)
Scout Bike = 21 (-2)
Suppressor Squad = 18

/// FLYER ///
Nephilim = 90 (-33)
Dark Talon = 165 (+25)
Stormraven = 192

/// ELITES ///
Aggressor Squad = 21
Apothecary = 50 (-5)
Chapter Ancient = 85
Company Ancient = 63
Company Champion = 40
Company Veterans = 14 (-2)
Contemptor Dreadnought = 88 (-10)
Deathwing Ancient = 65 (-38)
Deathwing Apothecary = 70 (-5)
Deathwing Cataphractii = 26 (-4)
Deathwing Champion = 90 (-28)
Deathwing Terminator = 23 (-3)
Deathwing Tartaros = 23 (-3)
Dreadnought = 60 (-10)
Invictor War Suit = 90
Primaris Ancient = 69
Primaris Apothecary = 60 (-8)
Ravenwing Ancient = 75 (-37)
Ravenwing Apothecary = 60 (-32)
Ravenwing Champion = 70 (-36)
Redemptor Dreadnought = 105 (-35)
Reiver Squads = 16 (-2)
Servitors = 5 (+3)
Venerable Dreadnought = 80 (-10)

/// TROOPS ///
Incursor = 19
Infiltrators = 22
Intercessor = 17 (-1)
Scout = 11
Tactical = 12 (-1)

/// TRANSPORT ///
Drop Pod = 63 (-20)
Land Speeder Storm = 55 (-20)
Razorback = 70
Repulsor = 215 (+5)
Rhino = 65 (-5)

/// HEAVY SUPPORT ///
Devastator = 14 (+1)
Eliminators = 18
Hellblaster = 18
Land Raider = 180 (-59)
Land Raider Crusader = 200 (-44)
Land Raider Redeemer = 180 (-64)
Predator = 85 (-5)
Stalker = 75
Vindicator = 125
Whirlwind = 65 (-5)

/// NAMED HQ ///
Asmodai = 110 (-20)
Azrael = 150 (-30)
Belial = 125 (-25)
Ezekiel = 110 (-25)
Sammael Sableclaw = 200 (-16)
Sammael Corvex = 140 (-43)


If someone want to do the weapons i'm going to leave it at that...


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The Astraeus has come down 100 pts for those of us enamoured with the model. Makes it worth thinking about now? Running at about 620 pts at its highest cost.

Adding in Chapter Tactics and Doctrines it might be usable over a knight. I'm happy about it. Sad the fellblade and falchion are still dead and buried though.

Ooh so mine might be worth finishing:o
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SPOILER = BUFFS INCOMING



Could be wrong on some of them...


Entry = CA2019 pts value (value compared to Codex)

/// HQ ///
Chaplain = 72
Chaplain with Jump Pack = 90
Interrogator Chaplain = 80 (-5)
Interrogator Chaplain with Terminator Armour = 100 (-25)
Interrogator Chaplain with Jump Pack = 95 (-8)
Librarian = 80 (-8)
Librarian with Terminator Armour = 100 (-20)
Librarian with Jump Pack = 108 (-4)
Lieutenant = 60
Lieutenant with Jump Pack = 78
Master = 74
Master with Cataphractii Armour = 95 (-31)
Master with Gravis Armour = 90 (-12)
Master with Terminator Armour = 95 (-10)
Master with Jump Pack = 93
Primaris Chaplain = 77 (-12)
Primaris Librarian = 90 (-3)
Primaris Lieutenant = 65 (-2)
Primaris Master = 78 (-9)
Ravenwing Talonmaster = 123
Rhino Primaris = 70
Techmarine = 45

/// FAST ATTACK ///
Assault Squad = 12 (-1)
Assault Squad with Jump Pack = 15 (-1)
Inceptor Squad = 25
Ravenwing Attack Bike Squad = 25 (-10)
Ravenwing Bike Squad = 21 (-4)
Ravenwing Black Knigths = 44 (-2)
Ravenwing Dark Shroud = 128
Ravenwing Land Speeders = 45 (-25)
Ravenwing Land Speeder Vengeance = 90 (-32)
Scout Bike = 21 (-2)
Suppressor Squad = 18

/// FLYER ///
Nephilim = 90 (-33)
Dark Talon = 165 (+25)
Stormraven = 192

/// ELITES ///
Aggressor Squad = 21
Apothecary = 50 (-5)
Chapter Ancient = 85
Company Ancient = 63
Company Champion = 40
Company Veterans = 14 (-2)
Contemptor Dreadnought = 88 (-10)
Deathwing Ancient = 65 (-38)
Deathwing Apothecary = 70 (-5)
Deathwing Cataphractii = 26 (-4)
Deathwing Champion = 90 (-28)
Deathwing Terminator = 23 (-3)
Deathwing Tartaros = 23 (-3)
Dreadnought = 60 (-10)
Invictor War Suit = 90
Primaris Ancient = 69
Primaris Apothecary = 60 (-8)
Ravenwing Ancient = 75 (-37)
Ravenwing Apothecary = 60 (-32)
Ravenwing Champion = 70 (-36)
Redemptor Dreadnought = 105 (-35)
Reiver Squads = 16 (-2)
Servitors = 5 (+3)
Venerable Dreadnought = 80 (-10)

/// TROOPS ///
Incursor = 19
Infiltrators = 22
Intercessor = 17 (-1)
Scout = 11
Tactical = 12 (-1)

/// TRANSPORT ///
Drop Pod = 63 (-20)
Land Speeder Storm = 55 (-20)
Razorback = 70
Repulsor = 215 (+5)
Rhino = 65 (-5)

/// HEAVY SUPPORT ///
Devastator = 14 (+1)
Eliminators = 18
Hellblaster = 18
Land Raider = 180 (-59)
Land Raider Crusader = 200 (-44)
Land Raider Redeemer = 180 (-64)
Predator = 85 (-5)
Stalker = 75
Vindicator = 125
Whirlwind = 65 (-5)

/// NAMED HQ ///
Asmodai = 110 (-20)
Azrael = 150 (-30)
Belial = 125 (-25)
Ezekiel = 110 (-25)
Sammael Sableclaw = 200 (-16)
Sammael Corvex = 140 (-43)


If someone want to do the weapons i'm going to leave it at that...

 

 

There's a lot of wrong information here just so you know. Like Drop pods are already 63 and redemptors are already 105. Also Devs are staying at 13 not going to 14. 


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There's a lot of wrong information here just so you know. Like Drop pods are already 63 and redemptors are already 105. Also Devs are staying at 13 not going to 14.


Like i said i could be wrong on some of them and it's a comparative with the Codex pts values.

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