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Admech or Genestealer Cult as a second army?

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Hello I'm at a place with my Imperial Guard that I feel comfortable just adding the occasional unit to and committing to a second army with the Guard.

Admech and Genestealer both have fantastic ranges and great bits to kitbash into my guardsmen as well! I like the character models for both ranges as well and the fluff.

Admech

Pros:
Great metallics
Unique looking and powerful vehicles to have fun modelling and painting
Repair spam.
Cawl
Excuse to eventually get a knight
Bits for weapons not found in guard boxes
Great looking new flyer
Could make cool kitbashed Mechanicus trained veteran squads

Cons:
One strong tone across all robes
Lots of spindly bits to snap off
Might be too similar to IG gunline?
Silly looking new transport model

Genestealer Cults

Pros:
Another horde army
Lots of kitbash and weapon swap opportunities can finally create penal guard conscripts or vets with shotguns
More opportunity to use models I already own
Fun new psychic powers
Motorcycles and demo charges
Different types of xenos, clothes etc.. variety of painting

Cons:
Another horde army
Lots of new rules
Current imperial guard army might not aesthetically fit with xenos
Smaller vehicles



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My answer has nothing to do with my avatar. whistling.gif  Genestealer Cults.

 

It's one of the best kitbashing armies, in my opinion they mix well with guard if you use the heads/upgrade kits. Plus painting them is quite fun considering the colours they use. 


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Cults. Their deployment mechanics alone! Variety of characters! You can rope in both guard and nids for even more variety!

Admech are visually nice but play wise they are just another army. Troops in transports Yada Yada, Boeing hqs, no special rules to speak of and no canticles don't count they are just sad.
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Genestealer Cults would allow you to utilise your existing Guard collection either as allies or directly as codex units, meaning that even if you plan to go 'pure' GSC at some point, until you get there, you can utilise your existing Guard collection. Plus you have something to fight all those loyalist Marine armies with that's a bit more fluffy than an Imperial vs Imperial battle.
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Why not both. msn-wink.gif

 

Cult of the Bladed Cog looks nice.


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Another 'pro' for the Genestealer Cult are their deployment shenanigans. Deployment shenanigans are widely acknowledged as the best kind of shenanigans. 


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The four armed emperor calls to you...


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From what I've heard from a gameplay point of view Genestealer Cults absolutely annihilate Adeptus Mechanicus in the meta currently. I'm collecting Admech myself, but that's more for the art, the background and the lore compared to any gameplay concerns.

 

It pains me to say so but you're probably more likely to enjoy Genstealer Cults than the Admech. The Ergonomic Enginseer has a good point though. Perhaps you could run a kill team of whichever one you don't pick for your army and use the spare parts to decorate your army as a Cult of the Bladed Cog army.


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Why not both. msn-wink.gif

 

Cult of the Bladed Cog looks nice.

My god man are you trying to kill my wallet :o

 

 

From what I've heard from a gameplay point of view Genestealer Cults absolutely annihilate Adeptus Mechanicus in the meta currently. I'm collecting Admech myself, but that's more for the art, the background and the lore compared to any gameplay concerns.

 

It pains me to say so but you're probably more likely to enjoy Genstealer Cults than the Admech. The Ergonomic Enginseer has a good point though. Perhaps you could run a kill team of whichever one you don't pick for your army and use the spare parts to decorate your army as a Cult of the Bladed Cog army.

That's really too bad but I really don't mind sticking with a faction during a down time even if they aren't completely in the current meta. I think your point with the kill team is great though. It's just maintaining the goal of keeping whichever force I don't pick as a kill team haha.

 

But I appreciate everyone's responses. I think I'm still up in the air though, GSC were what I was going to get originally but I started looking at the admech range more and more recently. Hmm.. I think I'll just grab a box of neophytes and skitarii and see from there. Gets me thinking what a super-heavy for GSC would even look like?


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Why not both. msn-wink.gif

 

Cult of the Bladed Cog looks nice.

My god man are you trying to kill my wallet ohmy.png

 

 

From what I've heard from a gameplay point of view Genestealer Cults absolutely annihilate Adeptus Mechanicus in the meta currently. I'm collecting Admech myself, but that's more for the art, the background and the lore compared to any gameplay concerns.

 

It pains me to say so but you're probably more likely to enjoy Genstealer Cults than the Admech. The Ergonomic Enginseer has a good point though. Perhaps you could run a kill team of whichever one you don't pick for your army and use the spare parts to decorate your army as a Cult of the Bladed Cog army.

That's really too bad but I really don't mind sticking with a faction during a down time even if they aren't completely in the current meta. I think your point with the kill team is great though. It's just maintaining the goal of keeping whichever force I don't pick as a kill team haha.

 

But I appreciate everyone's responses. I think I'm still up in the air though, GSC were what I was going to get originally but I started looking at the admech range more and more recently. Hmm.. I think I'll just grab a box of neophytes and skitarii and see from there. Gets me thinking what a super-heavy for GSC would even look like?

 

The first thing I thought of as a GSC superheavy was this: 900x0_MNSW-RB-DEMAG.jpg

 

However after searching I think a more 40k version would look like this fella: nautilus-machine.jpg

I think after a few heavy bolter point defences this would look pretty appropriate. I guess it would be like an oversized battlewagon in function? If you decided to kitbash anything based on the first one it could probably be made from a large toy crane and the Forge World Ordinatus Minoris platforms. At this point I'm trying to kill your wallet too though! :P


Edited by Magos Takatus, 02 January 2020 - 12:12 PM.

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I had a similar dilemma when I picked up the original Kill Team starter box. Can you guess what I went for?

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Why not both. msn-wink.gif

Cult of the Bladed Cog looks nice.


Agreed. Embrace the power of 'and'.

Put the toys on the table and throw the dice. Everything else is just noise.

 

...Unless you're just in this for the modeling. In which case, show your work. Yours likely looks better than mine, anyway.


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The first thing I thought of as a GSC superheavy was this: 900x0_MNSW-RB-DEMAG.jpg


 

 

From what I've heard from a gameplay point of view Genestealer Cults absolutely annihilate Adeptus Mechanicus in the meta currently. I'm collecting Admech myself, but that's more for the art, the background and the lore compared to any gameplay concerns.

 

It pains me to say so but you're probably more likely to enjoy Genstealer Cults than the Admech. The Ergonomic Enginseer has a good point though. Perhaps you could run a kill team of whichever one you don't pick for your army and use the spare parts to decorate your army as a Cult of the Bladed Cog army.

That's really too bad but I really don't mind sticking with a faction during a down time even if they aren't completely in the current meta. I think your point with the kill team is great though. It's just maintaining the goal of keeping whichever force I don't pick as a kill team haha.

 

But I appreciate everyone's responses. I think I'm still up in the air though, GSC were what I was going to get originally but I started looking at the admech range more and more recently. Hmm.. I think I'll just grab a box of neophytes and skitarii and see from there. Gets me thinking what a super-heavy for GSC would even look like?

 

 

However after searching I think a more 40k version would look like this fella: nautilus-machine.jpg

I think after a few heavy bolter point defences this would look pretty appropriate. I guess it would be like an oversized battlewagon in function? If you decided to kitbash anything based on the first one it could probably be made from a large toy crane and the Forge World Ordinatus Minoris platforms. At this point I'm trying to kill your wallet too though! tongue.png

 

 

 

I started working on this during the summer, I have plans for a Baneblade chassis next.  

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admech all the time every time it took us 6 editions to finally get them in the game outside BFG the 40K army has a lot to offer and 30K is even more fun.

If I wasn't already locked into my marines for 40K/30K (and the 8 other games I play) I would gladly start them up. I have even play tested a 30K game with them. it was quite fun using the castellax robots for troops, the explorator has lots of neat toys, including a combat claw to properly fight in close combat.
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If those little 30k robots on the 40mm bases (Thrallex or something?) were plastic I'd recommend those but the four-armed Emperor still calls. Come a little closer...







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