Jump to content

Welcome to The Bolter and Chainsword
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

Unit of the week: genestealers

Tyranid unit of the week Unit of the week series

  • Please log in to reply
9 replies to this topic

#1
Spacecow

Spacecow

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 211 posts
Let’s start the new year with ...

LvLnMIE.jpg

I thought we could start of 2020 with our much beloved genestealers!

I run them basically in every list, even with the changes.
Is it the same for you?

Do you run genestealer nodes and if so in what situations?

rtCgWrV.jpg

Also what HQ do you like to run with them? I generally take a broodlord with.
  • Dosjetka likes this
gallery_48988_15465_9161.png

#2
jbaeza94

jbaeza94

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,348 posts
40 genestealers with a brood lord and catalyst going after the strongest infantry mu opponent has. Termies, marines, tau, nothing stands in the way. Occasionally, 20 with a ravener squad
  • Spacecow likes this

"Honor the Legion" - Warcry and Motto of the Legion of the Iron Lions.
k0EYErV.pnggallery_26154_15777_7413.png


#3
IronDreddKnight

IronDreddKnight

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 199 posts
I like to run 40-60 kraken genestealers, with a broodlord for the buffs and Swarmlord for the sling shot.

It provides a strong first turn charge threat, which will keep other units safer as you force your opponent to deal with the stealers first.

#4
Jud Cottrell

Jud Cottrell

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,140 posts
  • Location:Swindon
Whilst we’re on the subject of Genestealers, I have a few questions that hopefully you vets can help me with.

First how many should I take in a brood minimum?

Is there any point in giving them scything talons? Rending claws look great.

I’m planning on running 2 broods in my swarm, is that enough?

#5
jbaeza94

jbaeza94

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,348 posts
I typically do 2 max broods with a brood lord.

Always take scytals. They're free, and dont take anything away from rending claws (you get to keep both)

When to use scytals? Who knows, but why not have them?
Edit: Essentially you're comparing more hits vs more failed saves. Only use against the weakest of armor saves
add the -1 ap to scytals chapter tactic, and they do a bit better than rending claws vs guard and weaker.

Edited by jbaeza94, 06 January 2020 - 04:48 PM.

  • Jud Cottrell likes this

"Honor the Legion" - Warcry and Motto of the Legion of the Iron Lions.
k0EYErV.pnggallery_26154_15777_7413.png


#6
IronDreddKnight

IronDreddKnight

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 199 posts

Whilst we’re on the subject of Genestealers, I have a few questions that hopefully you vets can help me with.

First how many should I take in a brood minimum?

Is there any point in giving them scything talons? Rending claws look great.

I’m planning on running 2 broods in my swarm, is that enough?


Brood sizes are best at full 20 capacity, 16 is my minimum and you should never start below 10 or you forgo the extra attacks. I go for either 2-3 broods, any more gets too expensive and they start getting in each other’s way.

Scytals are for when you’re facing something with an invulnerable save equal or better than they’re armour save. (Genestealers themselves are a good example of this, marines with storm shields are another) AP won’t help you here, but re rolling 1’s will help land more hits.
You’ll be forgiven for not modelling the scytals, but they’re a free upgrade and should always go on your roster.

Edited by IronDreddKnight, 07 January 2020 - 01:40 PM.

  • Jud Cottrell likes this

#7
Jud Cottrell

Jud Cottrell

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,140 posts
  • Location:Swindon
Thanks for the insights!

I think I’ll start off running 2 Broods of 16 with a Broodlord.

I’ll definitely model on the scything talons then, if they’re free it’ll add value.
Plus they look cool on the models!

Thanks again.

#8
Spacecow

Spacecow

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 211 posts
Anyone that prefers using the extended carapaces?
gallery_48988_15465_9161.png

#9
IronDreddKnight

IronDreddKnight

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 199 posts

Anyone that prefers using the extended carapaces?


There’s something to be said about using them with Jormangandr, Dynamic camouflage biomorph for a 2+ save. But you give up charging after advance. And you lose the +2 cover when you charge anyway. Genestealers are supposed to be fast, extended carapace slows them down.

#10
Spacecow

Spacecow

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 211 posts

Anyone that prefers using the extended carapaces?

There’s something to be said about using them with Jormangandr, Dynamic camouflage biomorph for a 2+ save. But you give up charging after advance. And you lose the +2 cover when you charge anyway. Genestealers are supposed to be fast, extended carapace slows them down.

That’s true, but I was thinking that certain terrain boards are a bit tricky to manoeuvre sometimes. And I like the narrative of them skulking somewhere to then do a sneak attack.

But in actual practical terms I hardly use it, cause yeah speed is king.
gallery_48988_15465_9161.png





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Tyranid unit of the week, Unit of the week series

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users