PiñaColada Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I mean, I assume he still has that Goff rule so sure, but that's probably 1 extra hit. Maybe he has 6-7 attacks on the datasheet, another one if he's your warlord and exploding 6's generate another one. It's certainly not bad but giving him either a sweep attack option with the klaw or just extra stomp attacks doesn't feel like it's asking too much. He doesn't look like someone to be tied down by a squad of guardsmen willing to plonk down 2cp for insane bravery TorvaldTheMild 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorvaldTheMild Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 It wouldn't surprise me if Ghaz is S8 T7 so x3 strength on that klaw would do very little (if he's S7 then there's some utility). I assume the klaw is going to be x2 strength AP-4 D4, perhaps with a MW mechanic on wound rolls of 6's (like d3 MWs in addition) Most likely he'll krump anything without an invuln but I fear he'll struggle with stormshields and the like as I don't think he'll have 10 klaw attacks or anything. I've speculated that he might have some extra attacks he gets to do after he's attacked with his klaw, say he gets 2d6 kick attacks (similar Admechs Cawl and his mechadendrites) at S:user AP-0 and D1. That would at the very least help him against getting swamped by chaff (and feels very fluffy IMO) Just for prosperity I want it to do x3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 It'll be fun for sure if he hits at S21 but honestly I don't think I care too much assuming he's at least at S14. (Although S27 hits with fists of Gork would be something) TorvaldTheMild 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Ya, but I'm thinking str21 hitting knights. :D Tir garadon would be jealous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Could be x2 are sweep attack, or a x3 str power hit? Kinda like the wolves dread axe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherBarry Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 When do we think the rules will be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Sunday? Or atleast teased or later next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I just read on dakka that Ghaz had his head lopped off and then reattached at some point. Is that actually in the fluff now and from what and when did that happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 That's off screen round 1 between rag and ghaz. We know Orks can fight with half a head, sometimes there bodies keep fighting without a head. There Orks, so I don't find it to be a big deal. Ghaz ripped off Ragnar arm, broke his neck and repeatedly punched ragnars armor so hard it dented inward. Lore is ok~ not great, but it was mentioned Ragnar went for the kill iregardless if it killed him in doing it. I think this is settinh up for a saint yarrick vs ghaz vs angron on armegeddon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Totally missed most of that dialog before. This rivalry falls right into Vince McMahon love big sweaty Orks territory. I wouldn't watch that on Pay preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 I'm also wondering where all this Ghaz/Ragnar lore comes from. What's the actual source material? There's only one thing I'm not too keen on on the model, and that's the size of Ghaz himself. Maybe it's because there isn't really a good example of a size comparison yet, but is it just me or by the looks of it is Ghaz's actual body about as big as a space marine under all that armor? I expected him to be bigger than that. Then again it could just be the photos. Won't have a real idea of his body proportions until I see the model in person. Regardless, he appears to be as big as (if not bigger than) girlyman. I'm definitely expecting a primary level stat line with some kind of super FNP mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I've read some opinions like that, regarding his size, and I'm just perplexed where it comes from. His two exposed thighs are HUGE, seemingly about 3/4ths as broad as a primaris's chest. Also, they are long, from his covered hip to knee, especially when you consider that Orks have relatively short legs. His torso behind his head is massive, and the exposed arms are monstrous! Lord_Caerolion, nanosquid, Lexington and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Given his torso armour seems to be rebuilt from a Leviathan Dreadnought, he's absolutely massive. Dumah 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Hopefully we'll see some of his stats Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbringer Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Lets hope so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Sunday the 15th is (hopefully) the day we get Ghaz vs Ragnar as the preview of what goes up on preorder the 21st confirmed. The actual rules articles and leaks will most likely fall in between those two dates, meaning 16th-20th. I can't recall GW ever putting up rules articles on the preview date, though I suppose they might if it's in response to a leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) Sadly I am tempted to buy the boxed set keep Ghaz and Makari and sell the rest on Ebay as I have no one to split this box up with. (As long as I can get this set at a discount from Bitz Boyz.) WLK is still trying to sell off his 40K wolves collection last time I heard so he's out. Baaaahhhhh! Edited March 11, 2020 by Warhead01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 When ndo ndas lift? Midnight the day you can preorder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I think it's 10 or 11 am GMT on preorder day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorvaldTheMild Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) I've read some opinions like that, regarding his size, and I'm just perplexed where it comes from. His two exposed thighs are HUGE, seemingly about 3/4ths as broad as a primaris's chest. Also, they are long, from his covered hip to knee, especially when you consider that Orks have relatively short legs. His torso behind his head is massive, and the exposed arms are monstrous! It comes from the lore, Orks grow every-time they win fights and battles and wars and there is no known limit to how big they can grow, so Orks that head great WAAAGGH!s are ginormous. Ghaz' size has never been confirmed but his older models are relatively short considering he's heading one of the biggest WAAAGH's ever. Wait to see how big the Nobz are if the rumour engine is what I hope. Edited March 11, 2020 by TorvaldTheMild 01RTB01 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaae Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I've read some opinions like that, regarding his size, and I'm just perplexed where it comes from. His two exposed thighs are HUGE, seemingly about 3/4ths as broad as a primaris's chest. Also, they are long, from his covered hip to knee, especially when you consider that Orks have relatively short legs. His torso behind his head is massive, and the exposed arms are monstrous! It comes from the lore, Orks grow every-time they win fights and battles and wars and there is no known limit to how big they can grow, so Orks that head great WAAAGGH!s are ginormous. Ghaz' size has never been confirmed but his older models are relatively short considering he's heading one of the biggest WAAAGH's ever. Wait to see how big the Nobz are if the rumour engine is what I hope. Yes, I know. I'm saying that he is ginormous, and it isn't just the armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I like how large Ghaz is it is reminiscent of the cover art for codex Armageddon. Kinda wish they had posed him with his Klaw up in the air to make him look even larger. TorvaldTheMild 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I've read some opinions like that, regarding his size, and I'm just perplexed where it comes from. His two exposed thighs are HUGE, seemingly about 3/4ths as broad as a primaris's chest. Also, they are long, from his covered hip to knee, especially when you consider that Orks have relatively short legs. His torso behind his head is massive, and the exposed arms are monstrous! It comes from the lore, Orks grow every-time they win fights and battles and wars and there is no known limit to how big they can grow, so Orks that head great WAAAGGH!s are ginormous. Ghaz' size has never been confirmed but his older models are relatively short considering he's heading one of the biggest WAAAGH's ever. Wait to see how big the Nobz are if the rumour engine is what I hope. What you hoping for or thinking? I like how large Ghaz is it is reminiscent of the cover art for codex Armageddon. Kinda wish they had posed him with his Klaw up in the air to make him look even larger. Joys of plastic, you may well be able to depending on the joins/ build. Fingers crossed! Warhead01 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 It comes from the lore, Orks grow every-time they win fights and battles and wars Not sure that’s quite how it works. Orks grow before challenges to other Orks for leadership positions, but I don’t think there’s ever been anything about them getting larger by winning wars and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) I was fairly sure that the more an Ork fights the more it grows was lore. I'm thinking I will square off the chest plate, knee plates and shoulder guards..and every other spot that can be 'fixed" to look more like a Metal MANZ. I like the Klaws on the feet but once again the horn placement isn't good. I would like to move them to below the Iron Gob as in the cover ate I mentioned.They got so cloee but I really feel like they missed the mark with Ghaz. To AoS To rounded. With luck maybe that can be corrected.Just noticed the Gob is too small as well. This is what happens when you don't let the Orks drive the car. It's a poor interpretation of Ghaz by a human who has only heard him described second hand, or something. Edited March 12, 2020 by Warhead01 TorvaldTheMild, XIXWYRMEXIX, hammer grimblood and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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