Jump to content

Welcome to The Bolter and Chainsword
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

Cult of Mutation Smash...Sorceror?

- - - - -

  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

#1
Dolchiate Remembrancer

Dolchiate Remembrancer

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,659 posts
  • Location:Montreal, Qc, Canada
  • Faction: CSoV, TSons
Hey all,
I just got myself a box of rubrics and will be using bits to convert 2 sorcerers.
I've been wanting to use the seers bane and make a Smash Sorceror with it but, looking at cult of mutation I'm wondering if a dual power sword wielding exalted sorceror might not be a rather good option?

7 attacks on the charge. 2+ to hit, rerolling 1s, 5 strength, -3AP, 1 damage. Hit rolls of 6 cause 1 mortal wound.

Thoughts?

Segmentum Ultima::Dolchiate Sector ++Tales of Warfare in a Sector of the 41st Millennium++
IA: Crimson Sons of Vengeance(BA Successor) ++ IT: Thrallband Tusmah(TS Thrallband)

  ETL_Medal_03.gif ETL_Medal_04.gif  gallery_29004_10383_212.pnggallery_62972_10568_30745.jpggallery_48988_10069_9408.pnghPRn0FW.pnggallery_48988_13169_15439.png


#2
Heliomanes

Heliomanes

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 619 posts

Dual power sword is illegal, unfortunately. They removed the option from both the FAQ and the digital codexes.

I think the Seers Bane version can still be good, if situational. The key lies in the damage stat from the sword - 1d3, which can be increased to 1d3+1 via casting boon of mutation, which only functions on non-daemon characters. At this point you have just brought an exalted sorcerer and used the relic stratagem, which seems like an ok investment. Not great, but ok. In most other circumstances a daemon prince with dual claws will just be so much better - so it seems a bit wasteful to spend both relics and warlord traits on a smash sorcerer.

Wishlist - give us back the option to do dual sword sorcerers, and turn exalted mutation into a warlord trait, so it can be meaningfully paired with the Seers Bane. Still would not set the world on fire, but would be fun and somewhat effective.



#3
Skerr

Skerr

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 832 posts
I have been looking for an excuse to shoe horn in this cult detatchment just cuz I love the Exalteds.

I was thinking of an outrider with a bunch of Spawn. Seems appropriate for the Cult. Though a heavy tax to get the relic.

Might be fun for small games?
  • Archaeinox and Sonoftherubric21 like this

#4
Archaeinox

Archaeinox

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,985 posts
RotD cults scale very well in small games.

"You're a wizard, Ahri"

"Discgoat for Harambe"


#5
Dolchiate Remembrancer

Dolchiate Remembrancer

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,659 posts
  • Location:Montreal, Qc, Canada
  • Faction: CSoV, TSons
Strange. Battles Scribe has it as a legal option. When was it removed?

Segmentum Ultima::Dolchiate Sector ++Tales of Warfare in a Sector of the 41st Millennium++
IA: Crimson Sons of Vengeance(BA Successor) ++ IT: Thrallband Tusmah(TS Thrallband)

  ETL_Medal_03.gif ETL_Medal_04.gif  gallery_29004_10383_212.pnggallery_62972_10568_30745.jpggallery_48988_10069_9408.pnghPRn0FW.pnggallery_48988_13169_15439.png


#6
Sonoftherubric21

Sonoftherubric21

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 2,103 posts

Dual power sword is illegal, unfortunately. They removed the option from both the FAQ and the digital codexes.

I think the Seers Bane version can still be good, if situational. The key lies in the damage stat from the sword - 1d3, which can be increased to 1d3+1 via casting boon of mutation, which only functions on non-daemon characters. At this point you have just brought an exalted sorcerer and used the relic stratagem, which seems like an ok investment. Not great, but ok. In most other circumstances a daemon prince with dual claws will just be so much better - so it seems a bit wasteful to spend both relics and warlord traits on a smash sorcerer.

Wishlist - give us back the option to do dual sword sorcerers, and turn exalted mutation into a warlord trait, so it can be meaningfully paired with the Seers Bane. Still would not set the world on fire, but would be fun and somewhat effective.

 

Wait wait wait. Are you saying there is currently no way to get 2x sword and +1 attack anymore? so the Seers bane duel sword build is null and void? 



#7
Heliomanes

Heliomanes

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 619 posts

 

Dual power sword is illegal, unfortunately. They removed the option from both the FAQ and the digital codexes.

I think the Seers Bane version can still be good, if situational. The key lies in the damage stat from the sword - 1d3, which can be increased to 1d3+1 via casting boon of mutation, which only functions on non-daemon characters. At this point you have just brought an exalted sorcerer and used the relic stratagem, which seems like an ok investment. Not great, but ok. In most other circumstances a daemon prince with dual claws will just be so much better - so it seems a bit wasteful to spend both relics and warlord traits on a smash sorcerer.

Wishlist - give us back the option to do dual sword sorcerers, and turn exalted mutation into a warlord trait, so it can be meaningfully paired with the Seers Bane. Still would not set the world on fire, but would be fun and somewhat effective.

 

Wait wait wait. Are you saying there is currently no way to get 2x sword and +1 attack anymore? so the Seers bane duel sword build is null and void? 

 

Yeah the double power sword option is gone. It was added to the Thousand Sons codex via a FAQ update. Then suddenly it was gone. We argued that we should still be able to use it, since it was available on the digital codexes, but suddenly it was gone from there as well. No explanation given from GW at all.



#8
Dolchiate Remembrancer

Dolchiate Remembrancer

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,659 posts
  • Location:Montreal, Qc, Canada
  • Faction: CSoV, TSons
Whoa. Prosperine conspiracy!
  • Archaeinox likes this

Segmentum Ultima::Dolchiate Sector ++Tales of Warfare in a Sector of the 41st Millennium++
IA: Crimson Sons of Vengeance(BA Successor) ++ IT: Thrallband Tusmah(TS Thrallband)

  ETL_Medal_03.gif ETL_Medal_04.gif  gallery_29004_10383_212.pnggallery_62972_10568_30745.jpggallery_48988_10069_9408.pnghPRn0FW.pnggallery_48988_13169_15439.png


#9
Archaeinox

Archaeinox

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,985 posts

Whoa. psychneuein conspiracy!

 

Damn things.


Edited by Archaeinox, 06 February 2020 - 09:02 PM.

  • Lucerne likes this

"You're a wizard, Ahri"

"Discgoat for Harambe"


#10
Nemesor Tyriks

Nemesor Tyriks

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 3,178 posts
  • Location:Ohio

Strange. Battles Scribe has it as a legal option. When was it removed?

No joke, this was removed less than two days after I built one.  I thought I was going crazy when I tried to find it again!



#11
Dolchiate Remembrancer

Dolchiate Remembrancer

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,659 posts
  • Location:Montreal, Qc, Canada
  • Faction: CSoV, TSons
I sent an email to GW about this and until it gets clarified, I'm considering it legal.
It's not game breaking afterall.

Segmentum Ultima::Dolchiate Sector ++Tales of Warfare in a Sector of the 41st Millennium++
IA: Crimson Sons of Vengeance(BA Successor) ++ IT: Thrallband Tusmah(TS Thrallband)

  ETL_Medal_03.gif ETL_Medal_04.gif  gallery_29004_10383_212.pnggallery_62972_10568_30745.jpggallery_48988_10069_9408.pnghPRn0FW.pnggallery_48988_13169_15439.png


#12
Dolchiate Remembrancer

Dolchiate Remembrancer

    +FRATER DOMUS+

  • + FRATER DOMUS +
  • 1,659 posts
  • Location:Montreal, Qc, Canada
  • Faction: CSoV, TSons
With the FAQ out, will not be doing this, as it requires WLT and Relic from mutation to work and there is no way I am giving up on Duplicity's relic.

Segmentum Ultima::Dolchiate Sector ++Tales of Warfare in a Sector of the 41st Millennium++
IA: Crimson Sons of Vengeance(BA Successor) ++ IT: Thrallband Tusmah(TS Thrallband)

  ETL_Medal_03.gif ETL_Medal_04.gif  gallery_29004_10383_212.pnggallery_62972_10568_30745.jpggallery_48988_10069_9408.pnghPRn0FW.pnggallery_48988_13169_15439.png





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users