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Keeper of secrets- claw attacks question


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dice4thedicegod

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So the keeper of secrets used to have a 4/3/2 column for its snapping claws attack. After the reissued datasheet in CA2019, it still references the number in the taking-damage table but that table no longer has that column. It just has the generic 6/5/4 column for the witstealer sword.

How is this being played?

Assume it should still be 4/3/2 for claws?

Or,

Go with 6/5/4, as those are the only attacks shown

Or,

Zero claw attacks (seems wildly unlikely that was intended)


I would assume the first (4/3/2) but wondered what folks think?

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They screwed up the KoS datasheet in the CA2019.

The missing Snapping Claw value and changed Movement are dead giveaways.

 

Original:

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CA2019:

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Edited by krakjen, 07 February 2020 - 11:31 PM.


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Not the only thing they have screwed up in this CA (Deathwatch Aggressor squads have unit size of a fix 21(!) models for example). I suggest playing either with the old datasheets stats or the one you can find on Shalaxi. Of course always ask your opponent whether that's fine first.

 

We all are impatiently waiting for the CA19 FAQ/Errata at this point. sweat.gif


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Yeah, I took it to our local mini tournament last night and used the old stat box (so move 14, 4/3/2 claws).

Went 3-0, so hopefully that’s what it should be and I didn’t get any unwarranted benefit !

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We've got the correction from the CA2019 FAQ: https://www.warhamme...02/8fa9c5ab.pdf - the profiles have been corrected to the originals :)


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We've got the correction from the CA2019 FAQ: https://www.warhamme...02/8fa9c5ab.pdf - the profiles have been corrected to the originals smile.png

It also kept the decreased Power level (11, was 13 before).

Good for people playing narrative and/or summoning.



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We've got the correction from the CA2019 FAQ: https://www.warhamme...02/8fa9c5ab.pdf - the profiles have been corrected to the originals smile.png

It also kept the decreased Power level (11, was 13 before).

Good for people playing narrative and/or summoning.

 

 

*narrative with power levels.

You can play Narrative Play perfectly fine with points too. ;)


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Indeed, it's not much but anything is better than nothing :P


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We've got the correction from the CA2019 FAQ: https://www.warhamme...02/8fa9c5ab.pdf - the profiles have been corrected to the originals :)

The keeper actually got a buff, the line above in the FAQ says replace her strength value with 6 (no longer degrades). This means she's permanently S6 (8 with the sword). That's a pretty big buff in my experience. Her strength degrading made her counter offensive less dangerous.

The power level change is huge for me, as I mainly summon keepers so making it easy to summon her on an 8 with an enrapturess or an 11 with any other chaos characters is pretty big. I love summoning a keeper turn 2-3 (when there's less threats) with a knight so it can just bounce around the board mopping things up.

EDIT: I guess she didn't have degrading strength pre chapter approved. Either way much prefer no degrading strength and more movement than 2 extra claw attacks.

Edited by Mushkilla, 12 February 2020 - 10:53 PM.


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Yeah, permanent str 6 means that she is always ready to bully primaris or in the sweet spot for a herald boost to hurt big bads.

I feel bad for bloodthirsters... their damage output seems a bit lacking in comparison

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The Keeper never had degrading strength before this Chapter Approved though so it's not really a buff, just a fix. :D 


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