Good idea! The Hrud can be Skaven equivalents.
Just a thought, but what about the Hrud? They live in underground cities called Juunlaks, made of tunnels, dirt, and dark, aparrently.
They would make a rather lethal and somewhat mysterious threat, given how little GW has truly fleshed them out.
To be fair, there's Orks, Necron and Heretics already threatening the Chapter (and I'm still not 100% sure I should keep the Necron involvement)
I think there's enough enemies for the Stonebound to deal with right now.
It's a neat idea all the same, but I'll let someone else tackle the Hrud.
Hey again Ace old friend, it’s been a minute. I’m glad to see that you’re still writing! My initial idea was to run through your draft in the OP with a red pen, but I think it’s probably a bit early in the writing process to cut into grammar and syntax. So, I’ll stick to hopefully thought provoking questions and suggestions for now.
I had a funny feeling the Stonebound would drag a few old names out of the woodwork with them.
Welcome back, brother.
The Chapter took the Hive World of Kharabor ('Keystone' in High Gothic) as a homeworld, and named themselves the Stonebound, after the local's name for the Space Marines.
I’m having a little trouble reconciling a presumably typical high tech low life hive world calling space marines something that sounds as primitive as “The Stonebound.” I’m not suggesting rename the chapter, but I’d consider reworking the name origin or the homeworld circumstances. Your description of Kagara works perfectly for this version of the story, but Kagara isn’t Kharabor and I’m not sure how much you want to share between them.
Semi-related, having a back-up homeworld in Kagara doesn’t convey “displaced” and “homeless” to me the same way something like “fleet based” would. That also means that you can fit the current Kagara description under Kharabor. The Chapter’s serfs aboard their ships and garrisoning their keeps could still be from or descended from Kharabor/ Kagara so you could keep the culture.
I'd honestly never considered fleet-based, and it makes a lot of sense.
I'll have to give this some serious thought.
I don’t know what’s supposed to be going on here. What does “Dead Prophet” mean? Is Galgor Toof-Robba dead? If he’s dead, how is he still prophesying and riling up Ork empires? I don’t imagine Orks are too into reading scripture. Why is being in Ork Valhalla more motivating than a good fight in the mortal life as opposed to the afterlife? Why not be motivated by the opportunity to fight space marines or loot their treasures? Right now I don’t think this snippet adds anything.
So.... when there wasn't anything explaining the existence of an Ork empire near Kharabor, I was asked to include something to justify the existence of Orks there.
I've thrown together a bunch of Orks based on the Discworld's Nac Mac Feegle, who believe that they're already dead and in the afterlife since from their point of view the world is just awesome.
The 40k Universe is grimdark and horrible, unless you're an Ork, in which case it's pretty awesome. There's stuff to fight and loot all over the place, and what proper ork doesn't love fighting and looting? So Galgor voices the idea that this must be where good Orks go after they die, and since they're already dead, they don't need to fear death.
On re-reading it, a randomly in-depth snippet about the orks does seem somewhat out of place.
I'd be happy enough to cut it completely, since as far as I'm concerned the entire setting justifies Orks being all over the place.
Also since I think Galgor and his followers might make an interesting Index Xenos article of their own at some point, where I can go into more detail about them.
I'll mull this over too.
the Stonebound marked the greatest of these offences onto formidable stone tablets, recording the wrongs that must be avenged in order to restore the Chapter's former glory. These Grudge-Stones serve as a permanent reminder of shames endured and losses taken, and only when the grudge engraved upon the stone is considered avenged is the stone ritually shattered.
The way that this is written, it sounds like the Grudge-stone tradition only starts after the Stonebound lose control of their home world. Is that intentional?
The fall of Kharabor is currently the intended trigger for the Grudge-stone tradition.
Since losing their first home and migrating to Kagara, the Stonebound's armoury is typically more centralised, and kept within the Chapter's reach at all times.
How is this not repeating the same mistake that lost them all their treasures the first time around? Wouldn’t the solution to not letting all of your treasures be stolen from a vault be to disperse the treasures around the Chapter and put them to use?
That is precisely the point, but I'm glad you've picked up on it.
The Stonebound are, in some ways, very stubborn. This is (or at least, it should be) a flaw as well as a strength.
They're obsessed with remaking their glory days, and struggle to learn from their mistakes.
Heck, they probably wouldn't understand it was a mistake to start with.
I don’t like this timeline or sequence of events. We need The Stonebound to be doing multiple things for a long enough period of time for everything to make sense. 1. How many relics and treasures can a young chapter really have? The Stonebound have to be old enough at the time of their defeat that raiding the Chapter’s vaults is a heavy and meaningful blow. Losing a land raider or a dreadnought (love that idea too, Brother Cambrius) with history and campaign honors is more impactful than losing one that doesn’t. 2. Then the Chapter has to lose Kharabor early enough in their history that fighting to reclaim Kharabor becomes a defining conflict.
That is a fair and valid point.
They'd have to flourish very quickly to still be a young Chapter when they lose Kharabor (and everything surrounding it).
More food for thought!
I’m also not sure what you mean by “realm.” Is “their lost realm” Kharabor? Is it the system? Multiple systems? A subsector? A sector? The whole Glastheim Rifts?
Consider it a shorthand for "all the planets they had keeps, armouries, or other materiel on, and most importantly of all, their homeworld."
You’ve written Imperial Fist successors hellbent on vengeance and settling grudges. Why isn’t there an Emperor’s Champion role somewhere in there? Random thought jumping off from here, could the Stonebound be an offshoot Black Templar crusade? That way the Chapter could be older than the 6th Founding. It also fits nicely with the Chapter Keeps too.
Because I have no interest in recreating the Black Templars, is the honest answer.
I like the Templars just fine, but I don't really look at them and go "They seem like the Dwarfiest Chapter".
If they were Black Templars, I'd have to justify them stopping their Crusade and taking a homeworld, only for them to lose their homeworld and either migrate to another or go back to crusading, making the entire justification in the first place a bit pointless.
It's probably a better idea to stick with the Fists.
I like the idea of a special First Company too. Any thoughts on changing the whole suit instead of just the pauldron colors?
I really like the colours I've picked out for the Redshields, so I'd rather keep them as-is.
I've got other Chapters who can change things up for their First Company, though...
I mean, on the one hand... digging tunnels seems a bit long-winded for how I imagine Space Marines with tanks and artillery options to conduct their siege warfare (i.e. blast everything to heck until the walls come down)…
But on the other hand Throne Yes, they absolutely do exactly that when the situation calls for it.
The Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors are probably dab hands at siege tunnels, but I'd wager nobody moves earth like the Stonebound when the need is dire.
Are Termite Assault Drills or possibly an Ordinatus Aktaeus on the table?
Both of those things are technically Mechanicus vehicles so I'd be very hesitant to outright include them in the article.
It'd be a bit like giving a tank-heavy Chapter a handful of Baneblades - it's a little bit too on the nose.
….I might have to amend my earlier statement to "Nobody moves earth like the Stonebound, outside of the Adeptus Mechanicus".
It'll be a little while before the Stonebound get a proper update; What hobby time I do get these days is likely to be spent on the Iron Gauntlet and / or the 12 months of Hobby challenge.
But rest assured the boys in brown are not forgotten, and their time will come.