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=][= B&C Dice - Final Orders =][=


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We are currently building an initial estimate of the quantities of B&C dice that members would like to buy. This will help us to calculate the final cost.

The manufacturer, Q-Workshop, is currently finalizing the designs based on the below images, 1 through 6 from left to right:


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Expect small changes such as the servitude studs being removed from the 6 face and the eyes/nose of the pip faces to be tweaked (changes will be to get the minimum sizes necessary/allowable for the manufacturing process).

The final designs will be shown here before we take your actual order.

Dice will be available in the following color combinations:

Die Color Combinations
Black with red designsRed with white designsWhite with black designsSandy with bordowy designsOrange with black designs
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Final cost will depend upon the quantities of dice ordered - the more dice, the cheaper the cost. If at least 300 of each combination are ordered, cost will be adjusted (in our favor).

Here's the basic information from Q Workshop:

50 identical 16 mm D6 - 2.60 USD per die
100 identical 16 mm D6 - 1.50 USD per die
500 identical 16 mm D6 - 0.91 USD per die
1000 identical 16 mm D6 - 0.64 USD per die
5000 identical 16 mm D6 - 0.45 USD per die

If you order minimum 300 pieces in each color combination, they will be priced together, not separately and we will just add a color change fee - 100 USD for each extra color scheme.

The price includes full customization (all faces) with adjusting your design to our manufacturing requirements, preparing a graphic visualization (3D render) of the dice, manufacturing, painting with one of the standard colors, finishing touch and quality control.

The price does not include the shipping cost. We use economic courier service, we ship from Poland.

The other element of cost that we'll have to figure out will be shipping, both from Q Workshop (in Poland) to Brother Tyler (in Texas, USA), and then from Brother Tyler to you (potentially via a single member in Europe).

If you are interested in purchasing these dice, please send a PM to Brother Tyler with the following information:

- Red design on black die #
- White design on red die #
- Black design on white die #
- Bordowy design on sandy die #
- Black design on orange die #

Continent, Country, State/Province/whatever
This will not obligate you to making or changing the purchase once the design is finalized. We are simply collecting numbers in order to get an idea of the total quantities and resulting cost.

Edited by duz_, 29 April 2020 - 03:15 PM.


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Quick update from Brother Tyler:

Thanks to everyone that has submitted their estimates so far. I haven't replied to the vast majority of the PMs, but only because I'm too busy. I have, however, started a spreadsheet. Assuming I've copied everyone's orders accurately, here's the count:

- Red design on black die 444
- White design on red die 274
- Black design on white die 260
- Bordowy design on sandy die 469
- Black design on orange die 385

- Total dice estimated 1,832

So right now we're at $1.50 (USD) per die. If we can get the two highlighted combinations over the 300 mark (just a few more of each!), the price per die will be knocked down to $.64 (USD). If that happens, though, we'll also owe $400 because there are five total color combinations. That cost will be split among the members ordering (I'll try to figure out a way to pro-rate it so that people with smaller orders aren't paying more than the $1.50/die rate). With simple math, if we make it a charge per die, it would come out to a maximum of $.21 per die (or $.85 per die total, not including shipping and handling) - still cheaper than the $1.50 per die rate. And the more dice that are ordered, the lower that goes (just divide 400 by the total number of dice ordered). We need to get those two combinations over the 300 mark for that to happen, though.

I'll leave the estimate period open for another week or so to give everyone time.



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Numbers as of this morning:

- Red design on black die 496
- White design on red die 404
- Black design on white die 426
- Bordowy design on sandy die 529
- Black design on orange die 465

Total dice estimated (so far): 2,320

The $400 gets divided into $.18 per die.

Looking into it more, we're going to see an additional charge for shipping from Q-Workshop to me. That, too, will be divided equally by die. I don't know that charge yet, so I can't factor it into our cost estimate. I'm going to ask them about the possibility of splitting the shipment. If they can do that, it will allow us to ship the Americas/Australia portion to me and the Europe/Africa/Asia portion to our other (undetermined) logistics hub, saving everyone money (hopefully). If they can support that, we'll divide the shipping costs for each only among the applicable members. Even if there is a small additional fee for splitting the shipment, that will probably still be cheaper than shipping everything to me (dividing that cost by everyone) and then shipping a portion back over to Europe (dividing that cost by our European/Asian/African members). In essence, I'll explore every angle we can find to minimize the overall cost as much as possible.



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Numbers as of this morning:

- Red design on black die 566
- White design on red die 479
- Black design on white die 560
- Bordowy design on sandy die 684
- Black design on orange die 524

Total dice estimated (so far): 2,813

The $400 gets divided into $.15 per die (basic per die cost now at $.79).


More in depth breakdown of how the unit cost is being calculated is available in the quoted thread

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Numbers as of this morning:

- Red design on black die 640
- White design on red die 499
- Black design on white die 580
- Bordowy design on sandy die 838
- Black design on orange die 594

Total dice estimated (so far): 3,151

The $400 gets divided into $.13 per die (basic per die cost at $.77).

I'll hold off on submitting our final estimate until later this evening. This leaves time for more submissions and for members to adjust their estimates. Keep in mind that we'll still have to factor in shipping.

 



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=][= Now final taking orders HERE. =][=

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In case you forgot last chance to put in dice orders

Anyone that wants to place orders may still do so. I'll consider any new orders as confirmation orders. Ordering is still open until I post otherwise in this discussion.

I've received and logged all of the confirmations that have been submitted so far. There are still quite a few members that submitted estimates, but who have not submitted confirmations/cancellations, so I'll be reaching out to each of them.

I'll also be replying to everyone that submitted confirmation orders just to make sure I get things right and to gather any missing information.



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Quick update

Sorry for the delay.

The account that we're going to use for the dice purchase is the same that we will be using for the main B&C (annual server/maintenance fees and the migration, which should actually be happening this year). So I've been leery of co-mingling funds. Since the fund drive is imminent and our rent is due in October, the dice purchase will pick up around that time (the account should be sufficiently cleared out and compartmentalized that I won't worry about mixing funds up).

At this point we're still in the finalization phase. Anyone that has submitted a request should submit finalization, including the shipping information so that I can calculate shipping costs for an accurate amount due. Since there has been such a long delay, some people may have adjusted their numbers. Also, there are other members that now have the opportunity to order dice.



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The B&C Dice Project will be resuming soon. Brother Tyler has posted an update here.
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