Known for their Size and/or Strength

[Dumah]

So, which chapters do we know of that fit the title criteria? We have the Sons of Antaeus as abnormally large and hardy and the Storm Giants are known to be exceptionally strong (possible mutated Biscopea). Also, there's a throw-away line about the Mentors having "at times fielded warriors of unusual size, strength and fortitude". Any other chapters out there with similar quirks?

Edited March 16, 2020 by Dumah

[Iron Father Ferrum]

Salamanders I think, too, but I can't recall why.

[Doghouse]

I seem to remember Salamanders being shorter for some reason? Something to do with them being high grav worlders or something, there was a period in 3rd edition where they had one less Iniative.

[BLACK BLΠFLY]

They would be faster and bigger.

[CCE1981]

I seem to remember Salamanders being shorter for some reason? Something to do with them being high grav worlders or something, there was a period in 3rd edition where they had one less Iniative.

More like .5 less initiative from Codex Armageddon. They were initiative 4 but went after initiative 4. Codex Armageddon still makes me a touch bitter for Salamanders.

[NKirkham24]

Is there something about Black Dragons? Thay have their bony (boney?) growths, but i seem to remember them being described as big too. It's been a long time since I read the Death of Antagonis though so may be wrong

[Dracos]

The old novels had at least a couple Space Wolves described as Primarch size.

 

I’m curious Dumah, what was the genesis of the question? Do you have a plan for using Primaris size models in a Firstborn army?

 

 

I’m all-ish Primaris it that would be a cool modeling project for a Chapters heavy weapon carrier in a Tactical squad :)

[Dumah]

Is there something about Black Dragons? Thay have their bony (boney?) growths, but i seem to remember them being described as big too. It's been a long time since I read the Death of Antagonis though so may be wrong

 

I recall something about the main character, who was of the "Dragon's Claws", being almost 3 meters tall so you could be on to something.

 

The old novels had at least a couple Space Wolves described as Primarch size.

 

I’m curious Dumah, what was the genesis of the question? Do you have a plan for using Primaris size models in a Firstborn army?

 

 

I’m all-ish Primaris it that would be a cool modeling project for a Chapters heavy weapon carrier in a Tactical squad

 

I'm glad you asked! I got to thinking about the Sons of Antaeus and how they might be represented on the table (heretical visions of ork and ogryn kitbashes danced through my head), which lead to thoughts of other chapters with similar characteristics, which in turn inspired me to begin writing a serialized short story compilation following the members of Kill Team Gigantes of the Deathwatch...

 

I'm planning to start a thread for that very purpose in the Fan Fiction forum very soon.

[Beta galactosidase]

More like .5 less initiative from Codex Armageddon. They were initiative 4 but went after initiative 4. Codex Armageddon still makes me a touch bitter for Salamanders.

Flat out initiative three for squads and four for ICs. It made their normal units’ cc very weak in that rhino rush edition. On the other hand, they are the best marine army in the world.

 

Anyway their background has them stronger than average, eg part of their recruitment trials are to hold an anvil over their head for as long as possible. Not shorter or taller though.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Beta galactosidase

[jaxom]

Certain individual marines have been called out as unusually large and requiring custom armour. Parsanius(?) from the Uriel Ventris books and Arjac, Grimnir's champion come to mind. 

[Captain Idaho]

Individual anomalies aside, Marines on average take on traits of their Primarch to a greater or lesser degree. Only Ferrus Manus could compete with Vulkan in regards to pure strength, with the general consensus being Vulkan was far stronger. I believe Horus Heresy novels had him knocking over Land Raiders with his Thunder Hammer.

 

Notably strong(er) loyalist Primarchs would include Vulkan, Manus and Russ. I remember the old fluff where Russ was described the slightly stronger than the Lion, who in turn was slightly quicker.

 

There there are the Cursed Founding and Dark Founding (to a lesser extent) Chapters who could be described as mighty, mentioned above.

[jeremy1391]

Weren’t the cursed founding “sons of Anteus” described as being bigger? I seem to recall that from the third edition era.

[Doghouse]

Yeah they would be a perfect way to include primaris in pre-indominatus crusade 40k as a test primaris chapter bought out of slumber early.

[Dumah]

Weren’t the cursed founding “sons of Anteus” described as being bigger? I seem to recall that from the third edition era.

Yes indeed. As mentioned in the OP.

[jeremy1391]

 

Weren’t the cursed founding “sons of Anteus” described as being bigger? I seem to recall that from the third edition era.

Yes indeed. As mentioned in the OP.

[Gorgoff]

In the Deathwatch RPG they say that SM are designed to be the same hight of 2.3 meters(I don't know what that is in bananas).

Only exception are SW who are a little bit taller. Of course there are individuals who challange this rule like Pollux for example.

[Dracos]

7 1/2 ft ish

[Xenith]

 

 

Is there something about Black Dragons? Thay have their bony (boney?) growths, but i seem to remember them being described as big too. It's been a long time since I read the Death of Antagonis though so may be wrong

I recall something about the main character, who was of the "Dragon's Claws", being almost 3 meters tall so you could be on to something.

The old novels had at least a couple Space Wolves described as Primarch size.

 

I’m curious Dumah, what was the genesis of the question? Do you have a plan for using Primaris size models in a Firstborn army?

 

 

I’m all-ish Primaris it that would be a cool modeling project for a Chapters heavy weapon carrier in a Tactical squad

I'm glad you asked! I got to thinking about the Sons of Antaeus and how they might be represented on the table (heretical visions of ork and ogryn kitbashes danced through my head), which lead to thoughts of other chapters with similar characteristics, which in turn inspired me to begin writing a serialized short story compilation following the members of Kill Team Gigantes of the Deathwatch...

 

I'm planning to start a thread for that very purpose in the Fan Fiction forum very soon.

Large marines wouldn't be the size of ogryns, maybe a large marine in gravis armour.

 

The sons of Antaeus also had hardened bones, possibly steel reinforces, possible an experiment as part of the Primaris project. They're still just slightly larger marines that could be represented by using straightened legs, eg from the deathwatch kit.

 

The other gene stock known for large marines is the Alpha Legion, with large legionaries and a smaller than normal primarch.

Edited April 14, 2020 by Xenith

[jaxom]

Pasanius’s armor was adapted from Terminator armour so that gives an idea, at least based on narrative/art scale.

[Xenith]

Pasanius’s armor was adapted from Terminator armour so that gives an idea, at least based on narrative/art scale.

 

Exactly - a "Very Large Marine" is still smaller than one in terminator armour, and nowhere near the size of an Ogryn. 

 

That said, Silas Albarec of the Exorcists is supposed to be one of the largest marines around, and is described as 'ogryn-like', though I think we can write that off as artistic licence, the same way we describe people 'as big as a house'. They're not actually. Just much larger than normal. A very large marine might be primaris sized, maybe bigger. 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by Xenith