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Psychic Awakening: War of the Spider (incl. Fabius Bile)


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Keep in mind Duncan Waugh specifically said that in PA, the changes made were less than those made in a Codex refresh. Take that as you want, but personally I won’t get my hopes up for a new faction coming out of PA - maybe post PA in a new status quo setting, but not before then.
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I'll be very surprised if "Agents of Bile" get any model support beyond Bile himself.


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Don’t get me wrong - I’d love to be wrong, I’m just not going to get my hopes up about it. GW has “let me down” one too many times in this way.
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Random aside, I might actually purchase Bile to go with my Word Bearers - been flipping through old White Dwarfs to pass the boredom of moving courses into an online format and found an old article with Matt Hutson's Word Bearers aiding Bile's escape. Cool stuff.

 

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I think if anyone is hyping themselves for more than "Fabius escapes, leaving some of his 'allies' behind to distract his enemies, cackling to himself that he has the material necessary for his latest project" they're liable to be disappointed. Said project being a vague plot thread that's left dangling forever.


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I wonder if this will come with strategem upgrades for Biles creations on marines.


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It’ll be like third edition with a souped up squad of super marines but completely unstable.

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I'm curious if it'll be possible to have an Agents of Bile army without Bile, or if he'll be necessary to "unlock" the keyword.


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Hmph... maybe they'll make it so Typhus isn't completely useless.
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It’ll be like third edition with a souped up squad of super marines but completely unstable.

 

We already have that. It's on Biles Datasheet.


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Aftee seeing the video my reaction is thus;

Heart: new faction, new rules, new models with fabius bile's improved CSM making a return but actually something you want to field on the TT both narratively and competitively.

Brain: no new faction, but can add a faction keyword to open up options for at least datasheets, but the only new datasheet is Bile with one or two strategems to "improve" some CSM keyworded Datasheets.

The GW hype train pulling into reality stations: Bile has a datasheet outs not that great and his creations exist in the story only.
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I already know how it’ll end Bile I’ll lead both his pursuers into a fight between both of them whilst he ultimately escape to continue with his plans or most likely having some part of his plan foiled before he escapes
The deathguard will no doubt be the ones who lose the most with them shown as the bumbling idiot of the whole thing

I don’t really want biles forces to be done a seperate faction as we have enough ones already like the gellar pox ones as well as Demonkin who haven’t had any other sort of other release since their release and will undoubtedly stay exactly the same they are. We need seperate factions for the other traitor factions like dark mechanicus or the other god legions like World eaters

Hopefully they’ll start releasing previews of the rules as I want to see if they will screw over DG with lack lustre rules
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TBH DG getting lacklustre rules would suit me better because when I get around to painting up mine from the starter set, I want to ally them with Nurgle Daemons. I love the GuO model and think that some of the heralds are pretty cool too. If DG get really, really good rules, then I’m going to feel jaded because of being penalised for not going mono faction.
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I do find it hilarious that some people were saying the size of newer marine stuff looks great next to regular humans like Cadians, and then GW upsized the humans so they are the same height as marines again :lol: :lol: :lol:


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TBH DG getting lacklustre rules would suit me better because when I get around to painting up mine from the starter set, I want to ally them with Nurgle Daemons. I love the GuO model and think that some of the heralds are pretty cool too. If DG get really, really good rules, then I’m going to feel jaded because of being penalised for not going mono faction.

Wait so you want DG to get bad \ lack lustre rules simply so you can ally demons without getting penalised for doing so when literally at the moment you are penalised by only taking mono DG without allies
 

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Well uhh... yeah, I think that's a rather dumb reason to want Death Guard to be underpowered, especially to those of us who actually play the army. There's nothing stopping you from doing it anyhow, Imperial players ally powerful forces all the time and the PA rules aren't going to be so extreme that you'd be on that level anyhow.

You guys really let this soup stuff control the way you play and it's a bit sad.

Anyhow... we do know that we're getting rules for the Seven Companies or Vectorums or whatever they're called now. It should be interesting to see how they give each one its own character because in the codex they give details into what their specialties are. Being a Third Grand Company / Vector or whatever player, I'm excited to see how they factor in the trench / siege specialist angle.
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Either they screwed up in the mail or there's still another article coming today.

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Those Eliminators up on the cliff in the top left. Probably cleaning up any captured geneseed creations or New Men?

Those are dead Custodes they're picking over.

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Either they screwed up in the mail or there's still another article coming today.

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Things to note in this image...

Is that a primaris kneepad on the right leg of that central CSM model?

Those Eliminators up on the cliff in the top left. Probably cleaning up any captured geneseed creations or New Men?

Those are dead Custodes they're picking over.

 

 

1) doesn't look like it.

 

2) could be anything, not necessarily Eliminators.

 

3) yeah that one is interesting. It's probably one of the first times Bile could actually target a Custodes since most of them remained on terra the past 10k years.


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Why do people keep thinking it's still Primaris Bile's trying to get his hands on? In the video he's clearly experimenting on a dead (presumably) Custodian Guard. That's going to make a hell of a scarier monster than a Possessed Primaris. 

 

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Why do people keep thinking it's still Primaris Bile's trying to get his hands on? In the video he's clearly experimenting on a dead (presumably) Custodian Guard. That's going to make a hell of a scarier monster than a Possessed Primaris. 

 

 

To be fair there's still the fluff blurb about Bile being obsessed with getting his hands on some Primaris ever since he witnessed them in battle.


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Why do people keep thinking it's still Primaris Bile's trying to get his hands on? In the video he's clearly experimenting on a dead (presumably) Custodian Guard. That's going to make a hell of a scarier monster than a Possessed Primaris. 

 

 

To be fair there's still the fluff blurb about Bile being obsessed with getting his hands on some Primaris ever since he witnessed them in battle.

 

 

Also true, but that video of him chopping up a Custode came out a couple of days ago! Presumably he's going to use the DG to kill a bunch of Adeptus Custodes to harvest material for new super soldiers. 



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Well everything will be clear soon ish. Between novels and short stories he has done some impressive work on the primarch's including a perfect clone of Fulgrim that he traded away. He has also been working with the DE on other messed up stuff. So really anything is on the table but I don't see him doing a 1 to 1 AC clone but more something tied to his own designs. He has had access to Horus, Corax, Fulgrim and Sanguinau's remains/bodies.

 

Skill and knowledge level it would be at the top or tied at the top of the "human" race of living members.  The big issue Bile has is his lack of material and resources and infrastructure.  Sure he can do some crazy stuff but he does not have the all of Mars and the rest of the imperium behind him to help him do whatever he wants.  He is also not liked or not trusted my a large amount of CSM factions.

 

Personally I do think GW will do a counter point to the SM primaris for a CSM equivalent at some point as their current model is making them a great deal of money.  I'm not sure that it will be this point in time but it could be part of the lead up to that moment.  


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While I am a HUGE fan of Bile and eagerly anticipate his "agents", I would be disappointed if this is the path they use to "Primaris" the Chaos faction.  If the fluff creates a small force of Agents that are super troopers but they are SO good that they become the auto include for Chaos armies, I think the mark will have been missed.  


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They're not going to Primarisify the CSM faction. We literally just got rescaled and revamped marines, there is no need for the kind of wholescale start-from-scratch that Primarisifying things entails.


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Where Fabius rules leaks I hear mentioned?
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Where Fabius rules leaks I hear mentioned?


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