What scattered the primarchs

[b1soul]

I prefer that the Primordial Annhilator subtly sows dissension among the Perpetuals, aggravating the divisions among them and leveraging their egos.

[Lord_Caerolion]

Yeah, no, Moonreaper...

 

Most of those things are things that could just be done by a Greater Daemon, and the Khorne/Malice things (personally cutting an entire planet in half/personally destroying entire Chapters/Regiments) are things Chaos Gods should absolutely not be doing. They're eldritch abominations beyond human comprehension, the one rule that's really been standard for them pretty much since creation is that they don't act directly.

If Khorne can just destroy planets at will, then why has Cadia been a problem for so long? If Malal, or any God, can just wipe out Chapters by themselves, then why are the Ultramarines, or any other major Chapter, still existing? They can't just randomly decide to incarnate themselves and start beating up Imperials.

 

Summoning a Daemon is supposed to be a big deal. Summoning a Greater Daemon is even harder. As in, "when the stars align, and the sequence of events spanning back a generation comes to its culmination at the climax of the ritual, only then shall the Great Unclean One be born into this world". If it's that hard, just think of how much energy and cost would be involved to summon a Chaos God. It'd basically be some variation of "destroy the galaxy". 

[mc warhammer]

well, it'd make really short books for one thing.

[Lord_Caerolion]

Siege of Terra, book 1, the Solar War, by Lord_Caerolion

 

On the first of Primus the sirens rang across Terra.

 

Then they stopped, because Khorne appeared in the sky and cut the planet up with his axe.

 

Nurgle then infected all the loyal Primarchs with Super-Ebola, and they all died.

 

The end

[Moonreaper666]

Yeah, no, Moonreaper...

 

Most of those things are things that could just be done by a Greater Daemon, and the Khorne/Malice things (personally cutting an entire planet in half/personally destroying entire Chapters/Regiments) are things Chaos Gods should absolutely not be doing. They're eldritch abominations beyond human comprehension, the one rule that's really been standard for them pretty much since creation is that they don't act directly.

If Khorne can just destroy planets at will, then why has Cadia been a problem for so long? If Malal, or any God, can just wipe out Chapters by themselves, then why are the Ultramarines, or any other major Chapter, still existing? They can't just randomly decide to incarnate themselves and start beating up Imperials.

 

Summoning a Daemon is supposed to be a big deal. Summoning a Greater Daemon is even harder. As in, "when the stars align, and the sequence of events spanning back a generation comes to its culmination at the climax of the ritual, only then shall the Great Unclean One be born into this world". If it's that hard, just think of how much energy and cost would be involved to summon a Chaos God. It'd basically be some variation of "destroy the galaxy".

Reality is just a break for the Chaos Gods when compared to the Great Game between them

 

First off, the Chaos Gods don't need to enter realspace to destroy planets. They can weaponize the Warp after all

 

Second, Malice can enter realspace in exchange for sacrifices

 

Third, Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes have not displayed any planet-destruction feats. Doombreed, Ann'grath, Aetho'eres (Insane Lord of Change whose name I can't spell) and other very powerful Daemons should have be destroyed a few planets in lore

 

Drach'nyen's most powerful feat is wounding the Emperor and cannot be destroyed by him

[Lord_Caerolion]

If Malice can enter reality when just mere mortals are sacrificed to it, then it's barely a god compared to the main 4. If it can be summoned easier than a Greater Daemon, then it's not that powerful. Malice is just a fan-service tribute to Malal anyway, it's never been said to even come close to the power of the actual Gods of Chaos.

 

And exactly, the Chaos Gods don't need to enter reality, so why are you wishing they can?

[Scribe]

This thread is just going to get me in trouble again.

 

The Gods are not Material. This is why Daemons don't just randomly jump in a ship and take off to Terra.

 

There is a clear misunderstanding of the metaphysical rules of the setting going on.

[Kelborn]

Further,

If you want to discuss the gods themselves, what they are and are not capable of, what you want or don't want them to be able to and all that stuff, there's a subforum here on B&C.

It's called the Realm of Chaos. Crazy, eh? Or maybe the Amicus Aedes is more of your liking.

Somehow, somewhy do we have more and more "General" discussion threads in here instead of BL releases talk.

I'm not saying that you should stop it (as long as they're tied to a certain novel or such) but maybe threads like this one might be more suitable in another part of this board if you want to talk about the pantheon in general.

[drooling blood]

Could have been a double Tzeenchian plot. Wouldnt have been the first time, two heads arent talking.

With a side does of humies being humies.