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Neuralshock

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Hey all, got a list here for the post Corona meta. I've taken some inspiration from Stephen Box namely dropping the staple smash captain. It's had some interesting results on TTS at least.

+++ BA double bat (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) +++

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [85 PL, 1CP, 1,099pts] ++

+ Configuration [1CP] +

**CHAPTER**: Blood Angels

Detachment CP [1CP]

+ HQ [5 PL, 100pts] +

Lemartes [5 PL, 100pts]: 4. Mantra of Strength, Invocation of Destruction

+ Elites [80 PL, 999pts] +

Death Company [18 PL, 260pts]: Jump Pack [2 PL, 30pts]
Death Company Marine [15pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword
Death Company Marine [15pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword
Death Company Marine [15pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword
Death Company Marine [15pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword
Death Company Marine [15pts]: Boltgun, Chainsword
Death Company Marine [31pts]: Thunder hammer [16pts]
Death Company Marine [31pts]: Thunder hammer [16pts]
Death Company Marine [31pts]: Thunder hammer [16pts]
Death Company Marine [31pts]: Thunder hammer [16pts]
Death Company Marine [31pts]: Thunder hammer [16pts]

Sanguinary Ancient [6 PL, 65pts]: 3. Soulwarden, Angelus boltgun, Death mask [2pts], Encarmine sword [8pts], Warlord

Sanguinary Guard [20 PL, 256pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]

Sanguinary Guard [20 PL, 256pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [28pts]: Angelus boltgun, Encarmine sword [8pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]
Sanguinary Guard [29pts]: Angelus boltgun, Power fist [9pts]

Vanguard Veteran Squad [16 PL, 162pts]: Jump Pack [2 PL, 18pts]
Space Marine Veteran [32pts]: Storm shield [2pts], Thunder hammer [16pts]
Space Marine Veteran [32pts]: Storm shield [2pts], Thunder hammer [16pts]
Space Marine Veteran [16pts]: Chainsword, Storm shield [2pts]
Space Marine Veteran [16pts]: Chainsword, Storm shield [2pts]
Space Marine Veteran [16pts]: Chainsword, Storm shield [2pts]
Veteran Sergeant [32pts]: Storm shield [2pts], Thunder hammer [16pts]

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [29 PL, 5CP, 535pts] ++

+ Configuration [5CP] +

**CHAPTER**: Blood Angels

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ HQ [14 PL, 250pts] +

Astorath [6 PL, 105pts]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate, Invocation of Destruction

Chief Librarian Mephiston (Primaris) [8 PL, 145pts]

+ Troops [15 PL, 285pts] +

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 95pts]: Incursor Sergeant [19pts]
4x Incursor [76pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired Combat Blades, 4x Smoke Grenades

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 95pts]: Incursor Sergeant [19pts]
4x Incursor [76pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired Combat Blades, 4x Smoke Grenades

Incursor Squad [5 PL, 95pts]: Incursor Sergeant [19pts]
4x Incursor [76pts]: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Occulus bolt carbine, 4x Paired Combat Blades, 4x Smoke Grenades

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Blood Angels) [25 PL, 7CP, 365pts] ++

+ Configuration [8CP] +

**CHAPTER**: Blood Angels

Battle-forged CP [3CP]

Detachment CP [5CP]

+ Stratagems [-1CP] +

Armoury of Baal [-1CP]: 1 Additional Relic [-1CP]

+ HQ [13 PL, 200pts] +

Sanguinary Priest [4 PL, 70pts]: Bolt pistol, Chainsword, Icon of The Angel, Jump Pack [1 PL, 10pts]

The Sanguinor [9 PL, 130pts]

+ Troops [12 PL, 165pts] +

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Astartes shotgun, Chainsword

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Astartes shotgun, Chainsword

Scout Squad [4 PL, 55pts]
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout [11pts]: Combat knife
Scout Sergeant [11pts]: Astartes shotgun, Chainsword

++ Total: [139 PL, 13CP, 1,999pts] ++

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I've had two practice games so far, against dark eldar and space wolf w/ IF TFC support.

Overall impressions is that this is a very versatile list, but hard to pilot. I don't miss the smash captain, there's times where he's fallen square on his face and left me out cold. My mob of elites make up for it by throwing more dice, especially the death company boy howdy.

This list holds board control very well and scores maneuver objectives (recon, KotH, behind enemy lines) easily. Getting hold, hold more, and bonus-ing is very achievable especially going 2nd.

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I think you can squeeze another sanguinary guard unit in if you drop Mephiston and the incursors, then use 3 more scouts units and another 8 man sanguinary guard unit

Battalion 1
Lemartes
Astrorath
5 scouts
W/Chainsword on sgt
5 scouts
W/Chainsword on sgt
5 scouts
W/Chainsword on sgt
13 death company
W/Jump packs/5 thunder hammers
Sanguinary ancient
W/power fist/warlord/standard of sacrifice/heroic bearing(this is important making everything fearless
8 vanguard vets
W/jump pack/2 thunder hammers/2 power fists/8 storm shields

2nd battalion
Sanguinary priest
W/jump pack/icon of the angel(again very important making sure everyone makes it into combat)
The sanguinor
5 scouts
W/Chainsword on sgt
5 scouts
W/Chainsword on sgt
5 scouts
W/Chainsword on sgt
8 sanguinary guard
W/2 power fists
8 sanguinary guard
W/2 power fists
8 sanguinary guard
W/2 power fists

I believe this was the last list he (Steve box) used before quarantine
12 command pts so enough to do everything and anything blood angel would want to do.
Me personally, I’d never leave home without cpt smash with angels wing but his (Steve box) argument is that the over watch isn’t a big problem and a lot of the times scouts can eat the overwatch, but setting up your objectives in the midfield and aggressive deploying helps, creating pocket for the jump death star to move into, he recommends if going second just deploy everything.
He deploys the entire army as a Death Star except the scouts

Edited by redshadow, 14 April 2020 - 01:16 PM.


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I hear that, but then it becomes his list. Putting aside my personal avoidance of net-listing, this is more of my evolution of that list build. I like the incursors for a few reasons, namely because they're scouts+ with 10 wounds making it harder for an opponent to get an "easy" kill. I believe Box's philosophy stemmed from eliminating as much variance as possible, hence why mephistion and the whole psychic phase is out the window. My feel is that Meph is the perfect born for greatness choice as he can do it all in most matchups. In games against heavy psychic denial you have choices and participation in your opponent's turn which I think is a good X factor. Additionally, if your opponent has IH, you can force them to spend 2cp to deny over multiple turns and still have that threat existing.

 

I have half a mind to ditch the VV in turn for 2 rhinos to either sit on objectives in the back end, or to hold onto the 15 scouts so they don't get swept away. Additionally, they would give me play against GK or other smite happy forces to throw 20 wound brick up front to combo with litany of faith.


Edited by Neuralshock, 14 April 2020 - 03:51 PM.


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Not my list, his, like I said I’d never leave home without cpt smash with Angels wing.
I actually differ from box quite a lot in that I actually like Intercessors and I run similar to you with 2 bats and a vanguard detachment with mephiston I don’t take lemartes, to be honest I don’t like Death Stars, don’t get me wrong I run sanguinary, sanguinor, priest and astrorath all in one unit but I can’t deploy my army in a big lump, I like your list




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