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[Fenriwolf]

Stuff they are mentioning in the semi-humorous video that comes before actual rules talk
 
-more starting cp (less soup specifically mentioned)
--using stuff from a codex will get you more CP,you can spend them to unlock more detachments from other armies + the usual stuff
 
-tanks can fire in h2h (presented as answer to gretching bogging them down)
 
-crusades are narrative rules (sounds like kill team advancement rules,but more complex and far reaching)
 
-"explosive weapons deal maximum damage to hordes"
--blast is a new type of weapon,good at blowing up mass infantry
 
-new terrain rules
--de-streamlining terrain rules since they feel they went overboard.New rules have models and terrains interacting better with regard to LoS and cover
 
-flyers changes
--new rules to better manage intweractions between infantry and flyers . Also new rules for strafing runs (including the fact they can get off the table without exploding at table's edge)
 
-reserves
--you can field in reserve stuff you coudlnt before to protect it from fire (or w/e)
 
Hopefully they'll explain some more in the actual talk That's all of it for now
 
 
 
Also they talked about a new app (what's that,the forth one?) that seems will be a bit more involved than just managing army building

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Added by Brother Casman on May 27th:
Link to twitch stream of the May 26th Q&A

May 26th Q&A stream transcript (google doc)

Edited by Brother Casman, 27 May 2020 - 02:36 PM.
Adding Q&A Stream details

[Lord Marshal]

So aircraft's getting an explicit buff at the same time as almost every aircraft on the store is getting a real world price increase.

 

Hm, really makes you think. 

[SkimaskMohawk]

Why did we need a new edition for this? Could have been FAQd at any point over the last 3 years

[Triszin]

changes sound fantastic

[Brother Kraskor]

Crusade to feature interring characters into Dreadnoughts if they get too injured!

[Joe]

 

Q&A at 7PM tonight. Four hours from now.

[tangoalphatwo]

i really want alternating activations... anyone think we have a hope of that?

[SkimaskMohawk]

@Joe

 

In 4 days

Edited by SkimaskMohawk, 23 May 2020 - 01:36 PM.

[Fenriwolf]

-CP: using stuff from a codex will get you more CP,you can spend them to unlock more detachments + the usual stuff

 

-Tanks firing in melee: basically that.

 

-Terrain: de-streamlining terrain rules since they feel they went overboard.Better way terrain interacts with LoS and cover

Edited by Fenriwolf, 23 May 2020 - 01:37 PM.

[Marshal Loss]

Command point changes sound great - mostly derived from the size of the game rather than detachment shenanigans.

 

Good.

[Maschinenpriester]

i really want alternating activations... anyone think we have a hope of that?

I am really hoping for me too. The I go with all my stuff you go with what's left feels so wrong after playing kill Team...

[Dosjetka]

 

Q&A at 7PM tonight. Four hours from now.

Tuesday 26th. That's not tonight.

[Fenriwolf]

Startegic reserves:  you can field in reserve stuff you coudlnt before to protect it from fire (or w/e)

 

Blast weapons:  blast is a new type of weapon,good at blowing up mass infantry

 

Flyers: new rules to interact better with infantry;new rules for strafing runs (including the fact they can get off the table without exploding at table's edge)

Edited by Fenriwolf, 23 May 2020 - 01:42 PM.

[Slayer le Boucher]

Tanks can shoot even when in contact.

 

Well thats nice for the CC armies where this was one of the few viable tactics for them to survive more than 2 turns...

 

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

 

For those that wants to follow the discussion.

Edited by Slayer le Boucher, 23 May 2020 - 01:42 PM.

[Toxichobbit]

They're really good at saying a lot of words without actually telling us much. The 2 min trailer summed it up way better without all the waffle.

[SkimaskMohawk]

I like how they're talking about a lot of the 9 things and saying "we've reworked from the ground up" and "it's a new weapon type". These things aren't new; they existed previously and just got tossed out the window for 8th. It really gets me that they basically pretend that last editions didn't exist and the problems aren't directly the cutting out of game mechanics.

[Fenriwolf]

I like how they're talking about a lot of the 9 things and saying "we've reworked from the ground up" and "it's a new weapon type". These things aren't new; they existed previously and just got tossed out the window for 8th. It really gets me that they basically pretend that last editions didn't exist and the problems aren't directly the cutting out of game mechanics.

Well,they admitted it for terrains at least. 

 

 

They're really good at saying a lot of words without actually telling us much. The 2 min trailer summed it up way better without all the waffle.

As usual.We already know they are going to milk the reveals for weeks,expecting them to not use the "lot of smoke,a tiny bit of substance" approach would'be naive

Edited by Fenriwolf, 23 May 2020 - 01:47 PM.

[Bryan Blaire]

I just want to point out that Pete Foley's whiteboard show's aware the team folks really are - it says:

Things to do today:
Assemble plastic Thunderhawk
Write rules for Angron
Confirm Dark Angels are actually the best!



And Fenriwolf, it won't matter to some folks - they automatically dislike GW even when they admit something was wrong and got changed. It's cool to hate and all that - 40K devotees of a certain age (especially those that fell hard for the grimdark) often forget that they were some of the first edgelords...

It's good to see that they think they removed too much and some complexity might be coming back, will be interesting to see how it is handled in game.

[Gongsun Zan]

I just want to point out that Pete Foley's whiteboard show some how aware the team folks really are - it says:

Things to do today:
Assemble plastic Thunderhawk
Write rules for Angron
Confirm Dark Angels are actually the best!

 

Plastic Thunderhawk makes sense with new flyer rules, right? 

[Toxichobbit]

I like how they're talking about a lot of the 9 things and saying "we've reworked from the ground up" and "it's a new weapon type". These things aren't new; they existed previously and just got tossed out the window for 8th. It really gets me that they basically pretend that last editions didn't exist and the problems aren't directly the cutting out of game mechanics.

Just before I posted above you, I sent a message to my friend saying "These aren't new rules worked from the ground up, they're fixing the bad rules decisions in the change from 7th to 8th" There were some other words in there too, but not suitable for this forum.

[Son of Carnelian]

So they're changing things back to the way you like and you're... complaining? Couldn't be me!

 

Very enthused about these changes. Excited to learn more!

[Trevak Dal]

Why did we need a new edition for this? Could have been FAQd at any point over the last 3 years

Because then they couldn't sell you a $70+ US dollar book.

[Pathstrider]

I just want to point out that Pete Foley's whiteboard show some how aware the team folks really are - it says:

Things to do today:
Assemble plastic Thunderhawk
Write rules for Angron
Confirm Dark Angels are actually the best!



And Fenriwolf, it won't matter to some folks - they automatically dislike GW even when they admit something was wrong and got changed. It's cool to hate and all that.

 

When he was first on it had

 

"Are marines too big? Make Smaller"

"Next Codex squats tyranids Space Marines!!!"

 

Bit *too* on the money...

[Syphid]

I like how they're talking about a lot of the 9 things and saying "we've reworked from the ground up" and "it's a new weapon type". These things aren't new; they existed previously and just got tossed out the window for 8th. It really gets me that they basically pretend that last editions didn't exist and the problems aren't directly the cutting out of game mechanics.

Yes, I laughed pretty hard when they talked about flyers leaving the board and returning later. This was already in the game six years ago!

[Noserenda]

All sounds good, i heard command points  will be you start with more and it costs CP to buy in other factions or FOCs, which feels like a good change depending on the costs!