Medjugorje Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) What can we expect? What will happen? New rules, what will help us in the game and what rules will stand against us. My big fear this time is that all we used to have (our melee squad - the Crusader squad) is now aviable for each chapter. My big fear is that it will be common to see them more as a typical White Scars unit instead (because they really have better rules so far)... on the other hand, now we have THE choice we ever wanted. Edited May 23, 2020 by Medjugorje Chaplain Corvid 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Lets talk in 2 to 3 years end of the edition when we get another couple pages with rules ;) Melee units are an excellent edition, and thats it. Edited May 23, 2020 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Look at those characters! Look at the ancient! Black Templarifying these guys is going to be EPIC! templargdt, SWORD BROTHER RYAN, Othniel's Blade and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Look at those characters! Look at the ancient! Black Templarifying these guys is going to be EPIC! Unit count, the picture's contents are: 10 Assault Intercessors (likely two squads) 3 of the Sword & Board guys Lieutenant with Sword & Board Captain with Sword & Board 3 Primaris Outriders (Bikers) 3 Hellfuries (gonna call them that until they get officially named) a new Ancient New chaplain Judicar (the Chaplain sword guy) the playester in the Discord I'm in said this about the swordguy "Chaplain": "he is like a Primaris champion and not a chaplain He is called the Judicar And he is a beast It’s an elite choice not an HQ And makes an enemy unit fight last" So yes. This is the Assault Wave. Black Templars rejoice. BitsHammer, Triszin, templargdt and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crovan Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Scuttlebutt is that the Chaplain looking guy with the sword is some sort of "champion" model. Dare we hope for a Primaris EC, even if we do have to share him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 An assault wave of models in an edition which is better for CC. Awesome. Hymnblade 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The icon guy is the only one if I feel iffy about. I need to see him close up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 An assault wave of models in an edition which is better for CC. Awesome. I think I missed something. What about 9e is supposed to be better for CC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Nothing we know of yet. They're just selling CC primaris marines really hard this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) An assault wave of models in an edition which is better for CC. Awesome. I think I missed something. What about 9e is supposed to be better for CC?It was mentioned in the full twitch stream. Pete Foley was keen on it. Combination of better terrain rules and other tweaks. For instance, more flexible rules on bringing in reserves could be useful for getting units closer. Edited May 23, 2020 by Brother Adelard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Chaplain Matthias+ Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Scuttlebutt is that the Chaplain looking guy with the sword is some sort of "champion" model. Dare we hope for a Primaris EC, even if we do have to share him? Here he is up close: https://i.redd.it/mbcpxx19di051.jpg Crovan 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crovan Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Scuttlebutt is that the Chaplain looking guy with the sword is some sort of "champion" model. Dare we hope for a Primaris EC, even if we do have to share him? Here he is up close: https://i.redd.it/mbcpxx19di051.jpg Blood. Of. Dorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 That executioner sword... They were so close to perfection. Cant stab stuff like that. Link2edition 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Chaplain Matthias+ Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 That executioner sword... They were so close to perfection. Cant stab stuff like that. It's a reference to executioner's swords from history. Some of them were like that. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) That executioner sword... They were so close to perfection. Cant stab stuff like that.It's a reference to executioner's swords from history. Some of them were like that. I love it.Im gonna do a bit of cutting to it.Let me plan a conversion... the dude with the skellie standart wih that executioner sword... hmmm Edited May 23, 2020 by Sete +Chaplain Matthias+ and Triszin 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Chaplain Matthias+ Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 That executioner sword... They were so close to perfection. Cant stab stuff like that.It's a reference to executioner's swords from history. Some of them were like that. I love it.Im gonna do a bit of cutting to it.Let me plan a conversion... the dude with the skellie standart wih that executioner sword... hmmm Now there is an idea! Maybe the executioner with the skeleton storm shield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The ancient with a tabard is cool, but the standard looks like it was lifted straight from AoS, probably he only thing that irks me about anything in that pic. Hopefully the shield units have options for hammers. Marshal Reinhard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The ancient with a tabard is cool, but the standard looks like it was lifted straight from AoS, probably he only thing that irks me about anything in that pic. Hopefully the shield units have options for hammers. Exactly what I thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hymnblade Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Hammers would be great, but I'm also hopeful for a better version of a power sword. Something along the lines of Encarmine Swords would be solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painting.for.my.sanity Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The only part I'm not excited about are the Hellfuries (I mean, I'm assuming the Melta guys are them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) An assault wave of models in an edition which is better for CC. Awesome. we dont know that yet The only part I'm not excited about are the Hellfuries (I mean, I'm assuming the Melta guys are them). they looking great too. In general they all look perfect to me. Edited May 23, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 It all looks great. My bikes will be having their chainswords swapped out for lances though. Marius_Aurilius 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 With our current rules the addition of bikes with close combat weapons (even if its just Chainswords) are more than a great unit for us, yes WS might still give them a better use but with Devout Push and Emperors Will then these W3 A3(5 with Chainswords) T5 units will not only shoot well but deal a decent amount of damage really fast in our hands, at worst they will be used to tie units down. Everything about these new models is lovely, my only complain is how to deliver those sword and board dudes into combat since they dont have guns besides pistols so an impulsor does nothing for them for a turn at which case it might be better to put them in a Repulsor and just move and fire but the models are lovely. The chainsword Intercessors are also a bit weird since normal Intercessor do enough damage in combat for a troop choice plus they have long range weapons, these guys better have some other buff because otherwise they do nothing that isnt already being done better by other troop choices (Phobos have reach and Intercessors are useful throughout the game), they wont reach combat until turn 2 with an Impulsor or 3 on foot, they dont hold objectives since you want to throw them into the enemy, its just a weird unit but we will see whats in their rules. I am very happy, this whole release screams Black Templar more than anything else. Marius_Aurilius 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted May 23, 2020 Author Share Posted May 23, 2020 very hyped about that models. The Judicar seems to be a perfect fit too because of style and his rules. A GW member said that he has the ability that enemies always fight last. Thats very good if the whole army can charge. Other Marine chapter must buff one unit to get a charge done. We have the ability for each unit as Chapter tactic, so we used to have the problem of interupting enemy units. If the melee rules getting better, we could have a lot of fun this edition and maybe are on a good spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 If it helps Dakka did some work to clean the image up a bit to make it easier to see things: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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